Friday 2010-12-10 Dev. video update and Discussion

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

Just by dealing with exhaustion effect - during night - time, means only 1 thing ...

the new title has gone onto another level all together and that is apreciated by all

IL2 fanatic customers.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Quickly read some things and found this explaining the flame color quite simply and well: "The flame colour of stoichiometric burning is described as a "bunsen blue", turning to yellow if the mixture is rich and whitish-blue if too lean." I hope this helps.

[addman]

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_Gaga

Just by dealing with exhaustion effect - during night - time, means only 1 thing ...

the new title has gone onto another level all together and that is apreciated by all

IL2 fanatic customers.

I think that's a qualified assessment and I'm inclined to agree.

[kestrel79]

I think the flames look great, going by those videos posted and seeing other engines at night in person I would have to agree more blue and red flames...but again I trust Oleg and his research on the different fuels and factors that I have no idea about.

My main concern is the flame reflections. In all the real videos posted you don't see any reflections of the flames on the aircraft. Where in the night video posted by Oleg it almost looks like a police car light reflecting off the aircraft.

Make the flames more red and blue, reduce reflections and I think we have a winner. Great update thanks!

Flying at night is going to be awesome in BoB!

[Fafnir_6]

Awesome videos! Thanks for posting. I really like the way the propellor has been animated in BoB (it shows how the human eye would see it in real life - for added immersion ). My question (more of a suggestion, really) is for those of us who wish to create screenshots with a period feel (where the prop blades are visible as dark bands around the propellor hub due to shutter speeds/refresh rates??). Would it be possible, perhaps in a future update of BoB to have propellor effects toggleable so that the default would be the realistic effect you have now in game but that an IL-2-style propellor effect could be selectable for the purposes of period screenshooting?

Just a thought,

Fafnir_6

[KG26_Alpha]

Hi Oleg

You have the flame colour about right for initial start up but probably to fast in engine speed, slower start to run up.

I've seen a few of these engines start up

1. Lazy/slow red/yellow flame from fuel primed start up.

2. Blue smoke clearing cylinders with yellow flames to brown/grey smoke.

3. Blue with yellow tips on engine run up and under run.

4. Shut down black/grey exhaust smoke short burst.

If I can find some of my video will e-mail it.

[JG53Harti]

Duxford 2009 (the size of the pictures is reduced)

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by JG53Harti

Duxford 2009 (the size of the pictures is reduced)

That amount of flame from the stacks at start up points to one thing, and one thing only, the engine was grossly over primed before start up.

I have seen dozens upon dozens of Merlins, Allisons, Wasps, Cyclones, and a DB 601 start, all in day time, and never once have seen that much flame come out of the stacks. Smoke certainly, and lots of it on some engines, but never large curling flames like that. Operator error, pure and simple.

[klem]

Originally Posted by JG53Harti

Duxford 2009 (the size of the pictures is reduced)

These look like startup pictures to me Harti. btw it's a griffon engine but the merlins look similar on initial startup.