Friday 2010-12-03 Dev. update and Discussion

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I'm sure we're going to be impressed, whether Southend is bigger than it should be for 1940 or not (and what difference would it make when you're flying over it anyway?).

Might cause lower FPS due to the PC having to render more buildings, but more likely it will result in a few people screaming, "My immersion!" then trying to end it all by downing their entire bottle of vitamin D supplements.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Nyuk, nyuk.

[nearmiss]

I don't recall anyone being disappointed with Oleg's work.

Again, the map in the screenshots... may not be the final release.

Talking about the map can't hurt. Afterall Oleg did post the update expecting feedback.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Talking about the map can't hurt. Afterall Oleg did post the update expecting feedback.

Hmmm... yes, but my impression was that the update was more about FMB than the map, and there have been quite a few posts asking questions about the new FMB which haven't been answered. Or are we asking the wrong questions?

[nearmiss]

Oleg usually hangs on the forums the first day. He may answer some questions when he posts the new update.

Sure would be a bonus, if he posted more screenshots from FMB.

The SOW FMB has been alot of mystery.

[Necrobaron]

I often find the criticism leveled at SoW overly pedantic or just outright silly, but it seems to me that if the map is as far off as some are saying, that's a big deal. I would say correctly modelling the area over which the Battle largely occured is absolutely important.
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[Asheshouse]

Originally Posted by Necrobaron

I often find the criticism leveled at SoW overly pedantic or just outright silly, but it seems to me that if the map is as far off as some are saying, that's a big deal. I would say correctly modelling the area over which the Battle largely occured is absolutely important.

If for whatever reason the map has been developed based on modern urban areas then at this stage it may be financially impractical to consider significant changes. The historic info for the uk is available http://www.npemap.org.uk/

From the NPE site:

If you drop us an email letting us know which areas you are interested in (ideally either sheet numbers, or the whole lot), and confirm that your use falls within the tile licence, we can work out the best way to let you get the tiles. It may even be possible for us to post you a dvd of the tiles, but we'll normally request a donation to OpenStreetMap in-leui of the postage.

Using the 1940's maps would significantly reduce map objects in urban areas therfore would presumably benefit fps/gameplay, to everyones benefit.

If it is too late for official changes maybe include the necessary tools with the FMB to edit the map and it could be done unofficially and later adopted, if the work is good enough.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Necrobaron

I often find the criticism leveled at SoW overly pedantic or just outright silly, but it seems to me that if the map is as far off as some are saying, that's a big deal. I would say correctly modelling the area over which the Battle largely occured is absolutely important.

I agree. If this was any usual 'game' that we were looking at, we wouldn't care, but this isn't your usual game. Oleg has set the highest standards. Following previous update discussion you see the effort he has gone to regarding the landscape and photo-realistic colour, and he has gone to lengths to explain to us why it should look different from the sky than we're used to seeing on the ground. SoW could give us quite a unique look at the 1940s landscape and really help with immersion. It's too late now for widespread changes, but if there are a few significant errors I imagine the developer that created that section of the map could make changes quite quickly. It would be disappointing if the release isn't a good representation of the way it was - partly because it wouldn't have been much more work to get it right than to get it wrong.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Oleg usually hangs on the forums the first day. He may answer some questions when he posts the new update.

Sure would be a bonus, if he posted more screenshots from FMB.

The SOW FMB has been alot of mystery.

So it has...

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