same stupid issue like in Mow ... PLEASE FIX : /

[Korsakov829]

More realistic gameplay for sure. You can take a Tiger out in the rear with a few point blank shots from a 37mm.

[Crni vuk]

Originally Posted by Korsakov829

More realistic gameplay for sure. You can take a Tiger out in the rear with a few point blank shots from a 37mm.

Now thats strange. The Tiger 1 beeing a vehicle which got almost as much protection in the rear like with the front (at least 80mm) so it should not be taken out by the 37mm ! Not even in the best conditions. Probably the 75mm from the Sherman would even strugle with that. The 37mm should realisticaly not even have a great chance to take out the chains of a hveavy tank. But how to take out the tracks of a tank is a story for it self as certain vehicles have been known to posses very good tracks which are hard to take out. The Tiger 1 beeing one of those vehicles. Well thats at least what you can read from Tiger 1 veterans during combat. Even direct hits to the tracks by 75 or 76mm guns would many times not result in a loost track. Damage yes. But not imobilisation.

[Korsakov829]

And about 6 months ago a King Tiger with a 57mm from the T34/57. Place the gun barrel so that it is directly targeting the target. It took 3-6 shots to the exact same place. I couldn't get anywhere with the 20mm though.

[Crni vuk]

well the 57mm had quite good penetration for its caliber. I assume the side might be vulnerable. But I do not know it for sure. I guess one would have to get extremly close for that.

Problem is that many times in MoW I would find my self using the T34/57 taking out tigers instead of flanking them with a heavier gun by the T34/85 as if you loose the 57mm version its no loos, if you can destroy the heavy tank though its a great win which is leading to rather strange and unrealistic situations. If anything the 57mm should be more in use against medium German tanks but that it can somewhat already penetrate the Hetzer from the front is rather questionable.

I say give any guns of calibers higher then 70mm and with long barrels (making it clear anti tank guns) a better chance of cracking tanks from the side. If you get in the correct range of course. The real issue should be more accuracy, not the penetration.

[Nikitns]

check out dms forums mate, the 1C forum is dead.

[szebus]

It is not dad, but a good transit for newcomers.

[Korsakov829]

Anti tank wise the T34/57 was better then the T34/76. MoW is the most advanced RTS game out there, and being that far ahead it will be some years for it to be perfect. As is it is very good.

[SpeedWolf]

Originally Posted by Nikitns

check out dms forums mate, the 1C forum is dead.

To:Nikitns
I'm sure he is here because of the bullies in DMS who is trolling everybody that have a opinion about Assault Squad.

To:Crnivuk
May i suggest when you post a topic in DMS to put up a poll in your topic like my friend Evilsausage did here .

This is the only way to show if people support your idea or not without needing to comment. because we know what happen when we give a opinion about Assault Squad.

as for your topic here. this what i have to say.

you will have to be lucky. you will not always kill a tank in one shot from the side every time.

i don't think it need to be change but of course is my own opinion and i will not bully you to agree with me unlike some people we know in DMS.

[CzaD]

"I'm sure he is here because of the bullies in DMS who is trolling everybody that have a opinion about Assault Squad."

Can't agree more. I am fed up with DMS forum. I tried to be helpful and supportive. But if moderators and admins can't think of another idea rather than closing threads, I don't see any point of posting anything there. Nothing stops the same few troublemakers from waging flame wars in order to get any thread they don't like closed. It is sad coz it is a forum where the devs are supposed to meet the players and discuss ideas. Atm, every new topic is spammed by the same few people and I don't see new players joining in the discussion, despite the fact the Steam community is constantly growing.

[Crni vuk]

Originally Posted by SpeedWolf

To:Nikitns
I'm sure he is here because of the bullies in DMS who is trolling everybody that have a opinion about Assault Squad.

Thank you for your very kind words

And yeah I know what you mean with the situation you explained. Though to say that I registered here first back before As was in development. I just thought it would be the only forum regarding mow and its expansions.

On the other side. I mean as said I dont dissagree with people who have a different oppinion as long they explain their point and have some logic behind it. And even if I do NOT share the point one can always agree to dissagree in a respectfull maner. There certainly is no "correct" way to play a game like Mow just your oppinion what you personaly think might work best in the end (I mean the game is NOT a simulation afterall, a complex RTS that for sure). So when I make a point I dont say that I am right and others are now wrong. But hey I love argue what should I say

The only thing I REALLY dissliked was (as you explained) the people which get in, say something like "its useless yada yada yada, just learn flanking yada yada, if you alow them Kingtiger you have done something wrong or never play games with high resources etc. etc." as like its the magical answer to everything. Of course sure we could talk about everything and always stop everything with such kind of arguments. But I think a healthy discussion is more worth then a forum where everything goes like a game is perfect. And actualy I am surprised how many people seriously think that both Mow and As would use "realistic" data for the tanks penetration making it equal to a simulation O.o