Ethics of pilots fighting for the sides in WWII

[Richie]

Gunther Rall was hounded by the Gestapo many times because his wife was helping Jews. Nothing was done however because he was such an asset. One of the commanders of a JG 53 unit was married to a Jewish girl, Goring had them all put this stupid red band of same around the nose of their 109s, you can see it in the SOW video. Gordon Gallob was a hated Jadgeschwader leader because he was such a fanatic. He followed rules to the letter and all he did was get many fighter pilots killed. The big joke is his father was Scotish. He probably wanted to over prove himself to the brass. In here anytime you say positive things about a German you'll get blasted witch is understandable but theirs some that were very good men, Trautloft, Galland, Rall, Molders, Barkhorn, Steinhoff, Spoden, Neumann. They were just fighting for they bad side. Any smart thinking man would realize that the leader of his country is crazy when men are eating the horses and he's saying we are going win Russia. You keep fighting with your friends and for your country.

[BK_JG27_Treiber]

Another thing about JG 53: Goring ordered Stab/JG 53 to remove the Pik As from their planes because he heard a rumor that the commander of the flight's wife was Jewish. Stab/JG 53 responded by also removing the hakenkreuz from their aircraft. Their protest worked, and they got to put the Pik As back on their aircraft.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by JG52Driver

Another thing about JG 53: Goring ordered Stab/JG 53 to remove the Pik As from their planes because he heard a rumor that the commander of the flight's wife was Jewish. Stab/JG 53 responded by also removing the hakenkreuz from their aircraft. Their protest worked, and they got to put the Pik As back on their aircraft.

Yep here is a photo of one - (no hakenkreuz but there seems to be a painted over section where one previously existed):




Shame all these captured 109's were melted down for the metal ... but I suppose there was a war on.

[Richie]

Great picture.

[BK_JG27_Treiber]

Great picture, but are you sure it's from Stab/JG 53? The Gruppe insignia seems to indicate III Gruppe to me.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by JG52Driver

Great picture, but are you sure it's from Stab/JG 53? The Gruppe insignia seems to indicate III Gruppe to me.

Well the reference to the photo said:

Bf 109 E 4 "White 5" of 3rd Gruppe/JG 53 (53rd Fighter wing, possibly based in Guernsey), shot down over Margate, Kent on 6th September 1940. The pilot was Unteroffizier Schulte and the aircraft crash landed near Manston airfield.

[Richie]

I sat threw nine hours of murder watching Shoah and I've seen countless other Docs. on the subject, gasoline injected into hearts for a simple test of endurance on how long a man can survive with fuel in his system, human skin covers on chairs in offices etc, I'm no idiot. These are the Aribert Heim's the Himler's and others who follow their doctron. Psychopaths.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Well the reference to the photo said:

Bf 109 E 4 "White 5" of 3rd Gruppe/JG 53 (53rd Fighter wing, possibly based in Guernsey), shot down over Margate, Kent on 6th September 1940. The pilot was Unteroffizier Schulte and the aircraft crash landed near Manston airfield.

the order to remove the "PikAs" from the cowling and replace it with a red band arrived end of July 1940. This order was for the whole Wing: Stab/, I./, II./ & III./JG53.
The "PikAs" on the cowling was officialy reintroduced at the 20.November 1940, officially to honor the 500.Victory of the JG53 - propably "helpfull" was the the JG53 got a new Commander 10.October ............

the overpainting of the Swastika was only common in the III./JG53 (7.,8.,9.Squadron) for a short time during 1940. ITs CO protested with that against the bad words Göring put against the fighterpilots.
in September the III./JG53 was already based in Le Touqet , Luftflotte 2.