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Old 11-19-2010, 12:42 AM
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I'm sure someone with some legal background can expand on what the details are bout I'll take the cynical route. With the shadow cast over... anything Grumman is nearly untouchable because even the threat of legal action would probably destroy any efforts at this point.

The best I understand is that although this problem pertains to the current game engine... the next gen product is separate from all of this and we'll hopefully see American vehicles and aircraft affected by this in the future. There are a few American assets that I believe are still possible to add and I'm not sure if adding a night fighter variation counts as adding something new or not either. Again it might be too close to venture into that nightmare.

We could have a Beaufighter or Mosquito nightfighter anyways...
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:17 AM
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Problem is the deal with NG was subject to a non-disclosure agreement which means:

- actual details are hard to come by

- even when you know the details its difficult to tell what you are ALLOWED to say without getting the thread locked/post-deleted on some forums



Basic story as I understand is that NG threatened UBI with legal action over copyright trademark issues. The threatened action apparently related to both the 3D likeness and the use of the NG trademark names for ships, aircraft and vehicles in Pacific Fighters.

The matter did not go to court as NG had obtained an of injunction preventing the release of Pacific Fighters. To avoid delays UBI settled with NG and then billed Oleg for the costs.

The issue is controversial as most of the equipment was designed and built with tax-payers money. Some commentators have claimed that if it had gone to court NG would have lost, however a court case would have taken years to settle.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:50 AM
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- even when you know the details its difficult to tell what you are ALLOWED to say without getting the thread locked/post-deleted on some forums



If that was on China,people would call it censorship.
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:42 PM
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Hahaha, so true.

I'm not very familiar with legalities, especially when it comes to US law, but i'm surprised all the simulator fans and scale modellers haven't taken up one of those class action lawsuits or something similar.

The thing here is that these machines were built with the people's money and manual labour under contract from the government which is supposed to serve these people, so as long as they have been phased out of active service one could argue that they are part of history and public domain.

I'm not holding my breath on a positive resolution, but it would be cool to see some movement. Chalk this one up there with the rest of the causes i might take up as an eccentric billionaire, if i ever won the lottery that is
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:49 PM
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Further to bf-110's post with videos, the ME262 was produced as a night fighter.

The radar installed in the ME262 looks too modern to be accurate thought - I may be wrong as not seen inside one.

I for one am looking forward to the hopeful release of the bf110 nightfighter.

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Old 11-19-2010, 01:04 PM
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It was not my intention to drudge up the NG issue. I just saw a while back that some in flight radar options were being looked at for a future patch. And I guess in my mind I was looking at the F6F5N not as a new aircraft addition, but more as an additional armament or loadout option for the F6F5.
In reality the F6F5 we have and the F6F5N are the same aircraft if you take away the radar pod.

Anyway, I understand if legalities would prohibit its development, and I certainly would not want it to cause problems for Team DT and the work they are doing, but I felt there was no harm in asking.

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Old 11-19-2010, 01:11 PM
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The radar pod would mean new 3d model and therefor we'd be in (very) hot waters with "the Grumman thingy". Not going to happen. Sorry.
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