Friday 2010-11-12 Dev. update and Discussion

[klem]

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

Why would you need to know? If you want to know for training purposes, just set-up an off-line mission where you shoot at an enemy bomber that is unarmed, and keep practicing with different ammo mixes, and see how much damage you can do. Am I missing your point (if so, what is it)?

The reason I am hoping for DeWilde (reasonably simulated) is that in IL-2 I am often thinking I am not hitting the target when my buddies are saying things like "good hits klem". For some reason many of my hits don't show to me.

Perhaps my assumption that we don't have DeWilde in IL-2 is wrong and it is my PC (AMD 3800+, 2.4GHz, 2 x 7800GTs). If there's no DeWilde, perhaps not all other ammo hits 'flash' on impact (but my buddies see them?). Perhaps it won't happen in SoW but I would be happier to know we have DeWilde

[fruitbat]

i'd much rather have DeWilde than tracer personally.

tracer makes little diff to me, i'd still hit without it (in il2) just because i've fired so much in il2 over the years, and its second nature where to aim. Seeing your rounds hit is much more useful imo, because then you know you've hit.

[WTE_Galway]

Interview with:
CAPTAIN J. J. FOSS, USMC
US medal of honor
Executive Officer, VMF-121
Bureau of Aeronautics
26 April 1943

http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Aircraft/VMF-121/

Q. What do you think of the use of tracer? Did you use your tracer for sighting?

A. Yes, sir. To start out I used the sight. After I got started, however, I just dropped my seat clear down so that I wouldn't have my neck stuck out and just barely looked over the edge. Then I used my tracer altogether, but, I had previously used the sight enough to know right where to shoot.

As for deflection shots, I'd always lead enough so that I'd never underlead. I'd always over-lead. When you overlead, you just ease forward on your stick and you can always see as far as the axis where he's going to go. You shoot in front of him and just ease forward on your stick. He flies right into it - you see your tracer work right on him. And on the tail end shot just give a burst of tracer, If it's over or under, you just go up or down.

I never wanted to sit up high enough to look at the sight. I just stayed down. To start with, I flew around looking in the sight. It works fine, as far as the sight goes; but after a while you don't need it. Is fact, I don't believe any of the boys that had been in combat a lot were using it; they all slid away down in the seat.

Q. Depended entirely on tracer?

A. Yes, sir.

[Richie]

Hey Philip what servers do you like to fly in on the Hyperlobby? I'm always in Spits VS 109s:Mods witch I do terrible in for my experience of thirteen years flying sims and tens years in IL-2. I used to do much better but I don't like my stick at all and I need to get some monitor distance glasses made...getting older lol

[winny]

About Tracers/Ammo mix.

The standard RAF loadouts at the start of the BoB. On an 8 x.303 gun aircraft
3 Guns loaded with bog standard .303 ball ammo
2 Guns loaded with Armour piercing
2 Guns loaded with Mk IV Incendiary Tracer (burns on way to target)
1 Gun loaded with Mk VI De Wilde

Or

4 Guns loaded with ball
2 with AP
2 with MK VI, the last 4 rounds were all Mk IV tracer to let the pilot know when the ammo had run out

Unlike the other Air forces of WWII the RAF preferred to load each gun with only one type of ammo.

[bf-110]

Something I forgot to ask is if SoW tanks (and grounds objects in general) will have different skins for different battlefield (desert,regular green,snow...)?

Originally Posted by bf-110

Something I forgot to ask is if SoW tanks (and grounds objects in general) will have different skins for different battlefield (desert,regular green,snow...)?

Eventually, but right now they're probably all going to be summer 1940 style camouflage (I'm guessing) since there isn't any real need for additional paint schemes. Adding them doesn't take long at all, and you'll probably see that if they do N. Africa or the invasion of Russia.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by winny

About Tracers/Ammo mix.

The standard RAF loadouts at the start of the BoB. On an 8 x.303 gun aircraft
3 Guns loaded with bog standard .303 ball ammo
2 Guns loaded with Armour piercing
2 Guns loaded with Mk IV Incendiary Tracer (burns on way to target)
1 Gun loaded with Mk VI De Wilde

Or

4 Guns loaded with ball
2 with AP
2 with MK VI, the last 4 rounds were all Mk IV tracer to let the pilot know when the ammo had run out

Unlike the other Air forces of WWII the RAF preferred to load each gun with only one type of ammo.

That kind of makes sense. Different ammo cycles the gun differently. Mixing ammo could cause "short cycles" jamming the gun. And for other reasons, one type of ammo per gun makes sense.

Splitter

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

i lol'd at this thread. then i held my head in my hands.

anyway.

varying ammo loadouts... has that been covered in any way? where we could make the choice, as with some of the new 4.09 rides, whether we take tracer in all guns etc? would it be practical/historic to specify belting in either the bob or later theatres?

I think this has been confirmed by mr. Maddox himself very recently. It's either in the thread about the Igromir expo, or even in this very topic. I don't know if it's a feature we'll see right away on release, but i have a distinct recollection that he did talk about personalizing the ammo belt loadouts being included in the simulator at some point.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Splitter

That kind of makes sense. Different ammo cycles the gun differently. Mixing ammo could cause "short cycles" jamming the gun. And for other reasons, one type of ammo per gun makes sense.

Splitter

Also would it allow you to harmonize the gun so all the different ammo types were converging at the same point?