Friday 2010-11-12 Dev. update and Discussion

[Dano]

Maybe we need to set up a wiki style Oleg's answers page so it can all been seen in one place and then just add it to everybodies sigs

[nearmiss]

There are plenty of ways to do things. A true FAQ or WIKI you would think would work.

It won't because there are always people that refuse to cooperate.
Those members always want the fresh answer, even if their question has been answered hundreds of times.

The update threads are a nuisance after the first couple days they always turn into something like this. Yet, Oleg often answers poster questions later in the week... so we let it run as a sticky thread until the next update.

If you don't like the tone of the thread... ignore the worthless words, and ask or make your own sensible postings. Oleg may answer those postings.

[philip.ed]

Nearmiss, I just think that people should not be allowed to openly say 'why are you posting this it's all crap' which pretty much sums up a few of the members on here. They could easily say this privately.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Nearmiss, I just think that people should not be allowed to openly say 'why are you posting this it's all crap' which pretty much sums up a few of the members on here. They could easily say this privately.

But stuff like:

"Hi Oleg, please tell me this and explain that, because the staus quo right now really looks like ****, I mean, even game xy from 1999 did that better."

should be ok.?

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by swiss

But stuff like:

"Hi Oleg, please tell me this and explain that, because the staus quo right now really looks like ****, I mean, even game xy from 1999 did that better."

should be ok.?

Not as a statement, you're right it's pointless, but if posed as a question and justified by pictures/videos/etc then why not? If it's directed at Oleg it's for him to answer; people don't need to act as his own advisors and try and answer the question for him, unless they can prove the post wrong with anyting Oleg has said or posted before
As long as everyone is calm and rational, and not rude and insulting, then things can run smoother. But yes, such posts can be rude if phrased that way. There are ways of saying things where one can be a lot more polite.

[major_setback]

So stop bickering!!!!!!!!!

[philip.ed]

Maybe that's the point; not everyone will agree with everything you have to say, so don't try and argue against that?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Not as a statement, you're right it's pointless, but if posed as a question and justified by pictures/videos/etc then why not? If it's directed at Oleg it's for him to answer; people don't need to act as his own advisors and try and answer the question for him, unless they can prove the post wrong with anyting Oleg has said or posted before
As long as everyone is calm and rational, and not rude and insulting, then things can run smoother. But yes, such posts can be rude if phrased that way. There are ways of saying things where one can be a lot more polite.

Look phil, it's not about the question itself - it's about the way many of them are are formulated, and that is often very offensive.
For all I care you can ask oleg if his trees are green - ok, go.

A (imho) no go is: Oleg your trees not only suck, but also I've seen waaaay more realistic models in Mario Bros for the c64 in '92.

Language barrier is not argument, you really dont need an advanced to formulate a question politely.

[philip.ed]

I agree with you there; the comment isn't really supported by any tangible evidence, and it's plain rude
If someone posts something like that, I think the best solution is to post nicely, rather than flame them, 'cos you're just dropping to their level.
I may have posted saying things like 'the smoke looks awful', but really I hope to never do so again. Or if I feel that way, say: 'Oleg, look here______the smoke looks a lot different than what we've seen in SoW. Will this type of smoke be modelled, or are you still finetuning the process? Of course this aspect of the sim will be hard to get accurate, as there is little evidence to use for this which shows the smoke accurately, but it would be interesting to have an insight into how you model damage effects like this.'
Whilst some may say that asking Oleg for such an insight is rude and too expectant, I feel if you're polite than all Oleg needs to say is 'no, sorry' or completely disregard the post altogether if he wishes


Sorry to have gone AWOL (again)