Friday 2010-11-12 Dev. update and Discussion

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by luthier

So the user texture can actually be a smaller resolution, 512, even 64x64 and still look all right-ish since the riveting and the weathering on top of it are 2048x2048.

I hope you are going to allow for the regular size skin too though. Markings are not going to look good in 64 x 64.

[dflion]

Thanks Oleg,
Very good video demo - the Stuka looks fantastic in HD.
The 'Cliffs of Dover' demo was excellent showing us the high aircraft detail, good framerate, cockpit sounds/voices, (I particularly like the cannon sounds) shadows and lighting and the great music score by Grigory Landman. All I wanted at the end was the Hurricane to land at one of the English airfields?
Can you give us a report on the Games Exhibition?
DFLion

[major_setback]

Downloads are taking over 6 hours, and then breaking
Start again.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by major_setback

Downloads are taking over 6 hours, and then breaking
Start again.

Download is working now!!! Fast!!

Thanks to whoever fixed it!

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

I hope you are going to allow for the regular size skin too though. Markings are not going to look good in 64 x 64.

No markings on that, only colors. Markings, riveting/panels, weathering comes all from separate layers wich aren't editable (if I've got luthier's words right).

Finally no swatiks any more

[klem]

Foo'bar !!

LOOSE TALK !

Oleg will have you for that

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by klem

Foo'bar !!

LOOSE TALK !

Oleg will have you for that

Okay, err... perhaps I've misunderstood luthier

@Oleg: there's a problem with the station building's scale in that screenshot. Please check email!

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

No markings on that, only colors. Markings, riveting/panels, weathering comes all from separate layers wich aren't editable (if I've got luthier's words right).

Finally no swatiks any more

the III/JG53 (at least a lot of its pilots) didnt use them in a period of BoB anyway

[Necrobaron]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

No markings on that, only colors. Markings, riveting/panels, weathering comes all from separate layers wich aren't editable (if I've got luthier's words right).

Finally no swatiks any more

This isn't directed at you specifically Foo'bar and I'll probably regret even making this point since it'll probably make me a "bad guy" but...

That'd be too bad if markings are not editable. In the case of WWII-era German planes specifically, it bugs me when history takes a backseat to censorship and political correctness. As much as I disagree with it, I accept that some countries like to whitewash history by making some symbols illegal. That's their perogative and I understand that Maddox Games doesn't want to open themselves up for litigation (though I think it's ludicrous to think a flight sim would be a lightning rod for Neo-Nazis). However if SoW, or whatever it's called now, is going to ship with missing aircraft markings, I'd at least like to keep the avenue open for 3rd parties to add the correct markings for those that can legally view historical correctness.

I'm certainly no Nazi sympathizer but for all the nitpicking about inconsequential details, it's surprising to me that more people aren't bugged by the lack of historically correct markings on German planes. Like it or not, the swastika was there. To me, leaving it off is tantamount to leaving the fin flashes or roundels off RAF planes, tantamount of course not in idealogy but in historical correctness.

Ok, rant over. Sorry for veering off on a controversial tangent so...flame away!
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Desire4you

[Romanator21]

You'd be surprised how offended people get. I built a model of a "Val" dive bomber and applied red circle decals to the wings - people called it a "Zero", and "the Kamikaze plane" and one person said, "You know what they did to my country?" I was surprised with the reaction to say the least. I guess building a model automatically makes me a sympathizer. You know, there are people who don't fly German planes in IL-2, because it is "wrong".

I wonder what will happen when I get around to making a model of a Finnish Buffalo with Hakaristi.

Anyway, the Russian version of IL-2 shipped with swastikas, and there was always a segment of code that told where they should have been applied (some place on the rudder). Programs like MAT Manager simply replace the missing texture. So, is this not going to be possible in SoW?

Oh, and the skins are 100% editable, with rivits, weathering, and bump-mapping going on top automatically. It wouldn't be that hard to photo-shop a swastika in, right?