Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik

IL-2 Sturmovik The famous combat flight simulator.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-11-2010, 04:40 PM
kestrel79 kestrel79 is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oshkosh, WI USA
Posts: 343
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro View Post
"IL2 Sturmovik" merchandise is for the combat-flight-sim market what "Call of Duty" is for the FPS, so for a publisher could be not a reasonable idea to change it, not at all. IL2 now is a very strong trade-mark in the world, as for Maddox Games.
I disagree with this. You ask any casual gamer or casual aviation video game fan what IL2 is and highly doubt they even know what it is. It is a very popular and strong market name in the FLIGHT SIM community yes, but not with the masses. And in order for BoB to be a success, it will have to cross over and appeal to casual non simmers.

See we are the hardcore, we know and love IL2. But we hardcore simmers are about 1% of IL2 sales sadly.

They need a name and boxart that grabs these casual gamers attention, not confuse them with a Battle of Britain sim that is named after a Russian ground attack plane...

Like others have said at least in the West give it a new name, with maybe Oleg's name above it:

Oleg Maddox's
STORM OF WAR : The Battle of Britain
the new sim from the makers of IL2
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-11-2010, 05:32 PM
150GCT_Veltro's Avatar
150GCT_Veltro 150GCT_Veltro is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 274
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrel79 View Post
I disagree with this. You ask any casual gamer or casual aviation video game fan what IL2 is and highly doubt they even know what it is. It is a very popular and strong market name in the FLIGHT SIM community yes, but not with the masses. And in order for BoB to be a success, it will have to cross over and appeal to casual non simmers.

See we are the hardcore, we know and love IL2. But we hardcore simmers are about 1% of IL2 sales sadly.

They need a name and boxart that grabs these casual gamers attention, not confuse them with a Battle of Britain sim that is named after a Russian ground attack plane...

Like others have said at least in the West give it a new name, with maybe Oleg's name above it:

Oleg Maddox's
STORM OF WAR : The Battle of Britain
the new sim from the makers of IL2
You've good points be sure, but IL2 is an example of a word which has lost its primary meaning in the customers feeling, first of all for the western customers and if Ubi has decided for it, we are not so few as we could think.
In Russia, IL2 is an aircraft with a particular meaning (the same is for the SU-25), but for the others is only a "Red Star" that does remember them the best sim they have had for 10 years, and 10 years are really a lot for a product.

But what you say about new customers is correct.

Last edited by 150GCT_Veltro; 11-11-2010 at 06:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-11-2010, 05:47 PM
undercut undercut is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 31
Default

How about..

IL-2 Sturmovik Presents
Battle of Britain: Their Finest Hour
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-11-2010, 06:19 PM
RCAF_FB_Orville RCAF_FB_Orville is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
Posts: 341
Default

For me, "Storm of War :" sounds great as the series title, then *insert here* for particular instalment. As has been previously mentioned, IL-2 vets will buy this no matter what, they are already sold. It's the newbies and those curious about WWII combat flight sims you need to attract.

Nothing wrong with including something like "from the makers of IL-2:Sturmovik" as a sub header either, probably a good idea. Its a quality brand and many of those who are not flight sim nuts have heard of it.....In the same way that those who know nothing about American football or Ice Hockey have heard of Dan Marino and Wayne Gretzsky!

Its win win all the way, no matter what you call it this will be a success, be sure.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-11-2010, 06:30 PM
JAMF JAMF is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 187
Default

The creators of Il-2 Sturmovik present:
Maddox Simulations: Battle of Britain


Doesn't look too bad either.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-11-2010, 06:51 PM
Sven Sven is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: The Netherlands, Zeeland
Posts: 787
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMF View Post
The creators of Il-2 Sturmovik present:
Maddox Simulations: Battle of Britain


Doesn't look too bad either.
Doesnt look bad at all JAMF, not bad at all
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-11-2010, 07:03 PM
nearmiss nearmiss is offline
Global Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,687
Default

IL2 is the brand recognized worldwide.

Doesn't make sense to change the branding after over 10 years of very positive success with it. Changing it would just confuse people and possibly help competitors.

IL2 is terrific... a 3 letter brand associated with the highest quality air combat flight simulator.

Nope, I say keep the gal you brought to the dance. You'll not regret it.

Look at MSFT and others they all try to create identity for their brands into a few letters...

Halo, WoW, MoH, EAW, etc.

I still think ---- Auntie's Outhouse has a nice ring to it, and it can translate to AOH.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-11-2010, 07:05 PM
philip.ed's Avatar
philip.ed philip.ed is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,766
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sven View Post
Doesnt look bad at all JAMF, not bad at all
Hehe

I think Storm of War, if possible, is better than Maddox Simulations. Purely because it gives an idea of the game genre, it works well for all subsequent combat-flight-sims, and also it's catchy.

Maddox Simulations sounds very professional, but in a title as such may sound a bit too vein? For example, "Infinity Ward: Modern Warfare_"
The Infinity Ward name may come into the title, but usually only to present the game: "Infinity Ward presents", and with JAMF's example we already have: "The Creators of Il-2 Sturmovik Present..."
If Maddox Simulations was to be in the title, I don't think it should be part of the main-title in this way.
Just my 2P
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-11-2010, 06:55 PM
Stiboo Stiboo is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Torquay UK
Posts: 145
Default

Whenever I see a movie being released that says..." from the makers of...."
or " from the director of...." I always think that the new film must stink as they wouldn't bother saying that otherwise !!!!


keep it simple -

Battle Of Britain, The flight sim - by 1c/Maddox games

Battle Of The Med, The flight sim - " " "

Battle Of Korea, The flight sim - " " "




ps - by the way Oleg what's the release date?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-11-2010, 07:02 PM
JG53Frankyboy JG53Frankyboy is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMF View Post
The creators of Il-2 Sturmovik present:
Maddox Simulations: Battle of Britain
!!!!!! THATS it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.