Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[Blackdog_kt]

I didn't mean to point fingers specifically, it's just a general trend i've seen emerge from time to time and between different posters.

In fact, you being prevented from expressing your annoyance at his posts is just as bad as him being prevented from expressing his opinions.

What i'm trying to convey is that it's not only about what we say, but how we say it as well. If my command of the language allows me to dance around a bit and not step on someone's toes i will do it. That doesn't mean i can't express a disagreement though, i can just be a bit smooth about it and this also gives my ideas a better reception because the other guy won't get defensive.
However, if my command of the languge is insufficient to do that, i might come off as aggressive and insulting when i express a disagreement and people will jump on me

I'm not trying to be back-seat moderator here, i'm just trying to pacify things a bit because a lot of times we get valuable debates devolving into point-scoring matches between people. It's a shame when it happens, as most of the community is knowledgable and they have lots of good information to exhange, so if i can do anything to encourage increasing the signal-to-noise ratio without ruffling people's feathers i try and do something to that effect. Hope this is clear enough and not grounds for a misunderstanding, as the furthest thing from my intentions is to start arguments and troll people. Cheers

[Xilon_x]

Dear team Daidalos loock the difference from FIAT G50 I series and FIAT G50 II series in this moment IL-2 sturmovik have FIAT G50 I series MISSING II series. TANK YOU.

I series
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II series
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Fiat_G_50.jpg
please loock the difference
fiat_g50bis_ten_tullio_de_prato_150sq_libia_giugno_1940.jpg

[Fafnir_6]

Xilon raises another interesting point about the G.50. I know the original G.50that shipped with Forgotten Battles all those years ago would have no need of a sand filter as shown on the pics above. With 4.10, I understand that DT will be correcting the propellor spinner for Italian G.50s to the rounded one seen in the pictures from North Africa while leaving the pointed Finnish spinner as is. Perhaps in 4.11 they could add the sand filter and corrected venturi position in a similar manner.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[bf-110]

Why the earlier G.50 had closed cockpit and later ones didn´t?
And,is there any plans of TD for adding other versions of the G.50?
The G.50 bis looks different than the one we have in IL2.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I didn't mean to point fingers specifically, it's just a general trend i've seen emerge from time to time and between different posters.

In fact, you being prevented from expressing your annoyance at his posts is just as bad as him being prevented from expressing his opinions.

What i'm trying to convey is that it's not only about what we say, but how we say it as well. If my command of the language allows me to dance around a bit and not step on someone's toes i will do it. That doesn't mean i can't express a disagreement though, i can just be a bit smooth about it and this also gives my ideas a better reception because the other guy won't get defensive.
However, if my command of the languge is insufficient to do that, i might come off as aggressive and insulting when i express a disagreement and people will jump on me

I'm not trying to be back-seat moderator here, i'm just trying to pacify things a bit because a lot of times we get valuable debates devolving into point-scoring matches between people. It's a shame when it happens, as most of the community is knowledgable and they have lots of good information to exhange, so if i can do anything to encourage increasing the signal-to-noise ratio without ruffling people's feathers i try and do something to that effect. Hope this is clear enough and not grounds for a misunderstanding, as the furthest thing from my intentions is to start arguments and troll people. Cheers

I actually meant what I said, Mate. I wasn't living up to my own standards, I appreciate being called out. Keeps me honest.

[Xilon_x]

Ok Ok sorry this is my ultimate photo regard fiat g 50 series sorry Spudkopf and sorry all members i close this argoument.
now you continue whit your argoument tank you DAIDALOS team for loock this little picture regart fiat g 50 tank you bye bye see you later.

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by Xilon_x

Ok Ok sorry this is my ultimate photo regard fiat g 50 series sorry Spudkopf and sorry all members i close this argoument.
now you continue whit your argoument tank you DAIDALOS team for loock this little picture regart fiat g 50 tank you bye bye see you later.

G'day Xilon_x

Please don't get me wrong, I was not saying that you or anyone else for that matter should not post your requests to correct error in models etc, if they are valid then all the better, I was merely pointing out that maybe they belong in the appropriate thread, so DT can hopefully find them easier. At the same time I do agree that there is a need for DT to be informed of potential errors on items they are posting in their updates.

However if the patch is as near to release as I suspect (or should I say hope) then any major modifications may need to be addressed in following patches, which is where the bug and requests threads make the contribution.

[bf-110]

Is that the same reason for the A5M,I-16 and P-26 not having closed cockpits?

And as Xilon said,it would be a dream to have Aquila and Graf Zeppelin with proper planes in IL2...but that´s rather a dream,not a possibility.

[Xilon_x]

yes yes bf-110 if developed carrier Aquila and Graf Zeppelin we canche the course of ww2 story not possible.
but in ww2 another tipe of carrier in europe reall exist.and are operative.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by bf-110

Graf Zeppelin with proper planes in IL2...but that´s rather a dream,not a possibility.

Yep, especially considering the "proper" planes would be the Messerschmitt bf155 (basically a 109G with folding wings) and the torpedo equipped ju87D. The 155 never got even as far as a prototype.

The Fieseler Fi 167 and 109T people talk so much about were obsolete well before 1942/1943 so they would be totally inappropriate for the period when the historical Graf Zepplin was expected to be complete.