New Rig for SOW:BofB What should i get

[Avimimus]

Pick whatever is state of the art in Q1 2012. That way you'll be sure to be able to handle "Battle over Moscow" as well.

(typical single missions in Il-2:FB required a rig which was a little over two times faster than the original Il-2 system requirements - if the engine upgrades don't push up the resource needs, then the mission builders will).

That said I could do with advice regarding the fastest RAM currently available and other performance configurations. I don't keep track of these things anymore.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

That said I could do with advice regarding the fastest RAM currently available and other performance configurations. I don't keep track of these things anymore.

Currently that would be something like triple channel 2133mhz DDR3 installed in banks of 3.

Latencies are less relevant these days ... the 2133 ram is often CAS 9 or so. The clock is so fast the latency becomes less relevant.

But you need a 1366 motherboard for triple channel.

Not sure if Sandy bridge will change that. Possibly SB will be all triple channel, no idea.

[DoolittleRaider]

As the thread originator, Thanks to all the thread participants thus far. Very informative, both technically and philosophically (Upgrade philosophy).

[As an aside, to shed some light on my personal perspective, I'm on the far side of 67. So, when I do an upgrade, there is always the possibility that the upgrade will be my Last...if you get my drift. Sooo, postponing some aspect of upgrading in anticipation of a forthcoming Advance in 6-12 months might well mean that I'll never get to see/experience the Maximum thrill which current cutting edge state-of-the art might allow]

But, back to the the main thread subject matter, I wonder why Oleg/1C can't now provide some very specific information on minimum necessary and maximum usable/desirable specs. Surely by this point they know how their engine will, or will not, use multiple Core technology. Will dual core be a minimum for effective BOB performance, even if not 'required' ? Will quad-core be the 'main' approach??? Will Six-core, up to 12 thread be a total waste in Oleg's opinion? Will RAM of 6GB, let's say, be the max that Oleg can see being usable for BOB on release?

It just seems that by this point, with BOB Release seemingly likely within the next 4-6 months, Oleg and his team certainly must for some time have been using some Top-of-the-Line, Cutting Edge computers for development and now Beta testing...if only to see how far they can push their engine/performance...or could push it in the near future. This would seem the opposite end of development/testing from their effort to determine just how low they might go for "Minimum specs" statement on the release package.

I can see why early in development, or even a couple of years ago, they would have been reluctant to commit to any 'recommended' specs....but now...Why not?

[Again, as a personal aside, I will not upgrade until at least I have a BOB installation DVD in my hand. I can then read the manual, and the forums, for a week while my Rig is being upgraded. I'd just like to be prepared now, in advance, for making the upgrade component choices. Someone suggested waiting to try BOB on my current rig to see if I might be satisfied...and therefore discover that I might need NO significant upgrade. No way, Jose. I have a Core 2 dual core, 8800GTX/768Mb, 4Gb RAM with only Vista usable 3GB. Surprisingly it runs IL2 (and Rise of Flight) superbly at moderate, though acceptable graphics settings and intensity...for a 3 1/2 year old Rig. At that time it was absolutely cutting edge, and expensive...but I've gotten more than my money's worth. However, now there is No possibility of it running SOW:BofB to my satisfaction.]

Thanks for listening...

[Splitter]

Doolittle, I have seen my future and it is you . 67 and still gaming, good on you!

Splitter

[klem]

Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider

[As an aside, to shed some light on my personal perspective, I'm on the far side of 67...]

So, I'm a mere whippersnapper at 63...

......I wonder why Oleg/1C can't now provide some very specific information on minimum necessary and maximum usable/desirable specs. Surely by this point they know how their engine will, or will not, use multiple Core technology. Will dual core be a minimum for effective BOB performance, even if not 'required' ? Will quad-core be the 'main' approach??? Will Six-core, up to 12 thread be a total waste in Oleg's opinion? Will RAM of 6GB, let's say, be the max that Oleg can see being usable for BOB on release?
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I can see why early in development, or even a couple of years ago, they would have been reluctant to commit to any 'recommended' specs....but now...Why not?
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I couldn't agree more. Oleg must have some idea of what will be needed and if he doesn't he's leaving things a bit late for a near future release. A guide should be possible for decent framerate expectations and settings, even if it's only what he has been developing on, and an equipment estimate for high or max settings at reasonable framerates should be possible and helpful to people like me with a budget limit which sets boundaries anyway (I accept that I may not be able to afford a max settings rig).

My situation is one of a limited budget burning a hole in my pocket which will get eaten by less important domestic issues (IMHO ) if I don't use it. Someone mentioned starving children. I have two in their mid-late twenties and they are still starving (apparently)

I could wait for Sandy Bridge but I don't doubt I couldn't afford it and I don't believe that it will knock the i7 970+ CPUs down to the current 950 price level I can afford. They will stay high for some time. Also the GPU landscape is fairly well established for the near future with ATI 5970s, and probably 6970s, and NVidia 580s being outside my budget. So I may as well go now. I have been offered an i7 950, 6Gb, SSD, 4.2GHz overclock bundle by Scan (overclock is under guarantee) which should futureproof me for a while. I am only now trying to decide on the GPU which will probably be a 5870 if SoW hasn't been written for Tesselation etc. Why buy something I don't need? I run a Flight simming rig (IL-2, SoW, FSX). And I don't need the 6000s 3D. My current choice is between cheaper but slower 6870 (optimised for Tesselation) or more costly but faster 5870.

Come on Oleg - give us a clue!

BTW, there is another thread running about system specs
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=16401