tessellation

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Endless City

2 billion polygons

I'm no programmer although I do have some basic knowledge... If implemented right, imagine what it could do to boost the number of planes in air battles and overall details. Procedural programming should have been focused on long time ago IMO. It is good to see GPU-s developing in that direction.

Maybe OT, but games like Infinity show that the capabilities are endless.

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

I'm no programmer although I do have some basic knowledge... If implemented right, imagine what it could do to boost the number of planes in air battles and overall details. Procedural programming should have been focused on long time ago IMO. It is good to see GPU-s developing in that direction.

Maybe OT, but games like Infinity show that the capabilities are endless.

The GPU most likely won't be the bottleneck when it comes to the number of planes or other active objects. Especially given that SoW's models have a relatively conservative polygon count. We don't know yet how CPU-heavy SoW's AI will be, but I have no doubt that new damage and flight models will take a toll.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

No its not the same, there's a huge difference with Water=4

ATI 1/2
Nv 1/2/3/4

I had NVIDIA cards and run IL-2 over Water=4 setting. And have ATI and run Water=2.

Please show me some screenshots with the "huge difference" between Water=2 in an actual ATI card and Water=4 in equally actual NVIDIA card and come back again.

Just some number in conf.ini mean nothing. In 2010 people still don't understanding that Water=3/4 are OPTIMIZATIONS to 3.0 shaders in the "Stone Age"... Even my HD 4850 have 4.0 shader model...

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

I had NVIDIA cards and run IL-2 over Water=4 setting. And have ATI and run Water=2.

Please show me some screenshots with the "huge difference" between Water=2 in an actual ATI card and Water=4 in equally actual NVIDIA card and come back again.

Just some number in conf.ini mean nothing. In 2010 people still don't understanding that Water=3/4 are OPTIMIZATIONS to 3.0 shaders in the "Stone Age"... Even my HD 4850 have 4.0 shader model...

You made the claim there's no difference show me the proof

If you look back through my posts you will see some videos that no one ever challenged.

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[Tempest123]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

I'm no programmer although I do have some basic knowledge... If implemented right, imagine what it could do to boost the number of planes in air battles and overall details. Procedural programming should have been focused on long time ago IMO. It is good to see GPU-s developing in that direction.

Maybe OT, but games like Infinity show that the capabilities are endless.

OT again but this video for Infinity blew my mind, imagine the hours you could spend farting around in this universe, jeez. If only someone can make a new X-wing, or Tie fighter out of this engine

http://www.infinity-universe.com/Inf...=113&Itemid=93

[T}{OR]

Now you can better understand why procedural programming is a step in the right direction.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by The Kraken

The GPU most likely won't be the bottleneck when it comes to the number of planes or other active objects. Especially given that SoW's models have a relatively conservative polygon count. We don't know yet how CPU-heavy SoW's AI will be, but I have no doubt that new damage and flight models will take a toll.

It's difficult to say... IL2 had a pretty good balance between Graphic Load on the GPU and of course FMs AI Damage etc on the CPU. IL2 scaled very well over the years and that tells me the code was pretty tight from a developer point of view.

It will be interesting to see if DX11 will have an affect on SOW. If WOP is any indication we aren't going to be that bad off even with current hardware. As Oleg mentioned they will unlock features over time as they continue to develop the sim. I certainly hope SOW is a success for them.

Just looking at that City Demo says that if they can take advantage of some of those newer card capabilities the future is pretty bright.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

It's difficult to say... IL2 had a pretty good balance between Graphic Load on the GPU and of course FMs AI Damage etc on the CPU. IL2 scaled very well over the years and that tells me the code was pretty tight from a developer point of view.

It will be interesting to see if DX11 will have an affect on SOW. If WOP is any indication we aren't going to be that bad off even with current hardware. As Oleg mentioned they will unlock features over time as they continue to develop the sim. I certainly hope SOW is a success for them.

Just looking at that City Demo says that if they can take advantage of some of those newer card capabilities the future is pretty bright.

Actually IL2 is pretty CPU intensive. High end cards are overkill for it. You would be much better of with a powerful CPU when playing IL2 than GPU.

Here are some comparisons:

GPU & RAM tests

nVidia vs. ATI

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

Actually IL2 is pretty CPU intensive. High end cards are overkill for it. You would be much better of with a powerful CPU when playing IL2 than GPU.

Here are some comparisons:

GPU & RAM tests

nVidia vs. ATI

I never found that to be entirely true at 1920X1200... I agree it weighed in more on the CPU but it scaled quite well in terms of FPS when throwing a high end card on it. Especially with the mods and eye candy stuff.

As I suspected his test is at 1440X900 with his card is really only going to show CPU scaling... You can say the same about my 1920X1200 being more video card scaling...

[WhiteSnake]

Think about this one: Heaven DX11 Tessellations benchmark is heavly sponcered by nVidia, and... nVidia whipes the floor with ATI/AMD benching that...
But in the only game (Stalker Call of Pripyat) that really makes a lot of use of Tesselation its totaly the other way around and the ATI/AMD cards basicly crush the nVidia cards wen benching that, Weird huh?