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Old 11-08-2010, 09:14 AM
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...but the absolute top level of detailing will probably be a whole other level that only the absolute top of the line computers will be able to take advantage of.[/QUOTE]

That's what Im talking about. Most of us want to play this game with everything
MAXED OUT to get the best visual experience. Therefore i dont hesitate to drop in a 3rd or even 4th gtx480 into my rig. You will need a VERY powerful system to get the most joy out of this game... Get the latest and BEST hardware so you wont be disappointed.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:41 PM
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...but the absolute top level of detailing will probably be a whole other level that only the absolute top of the line computers will be able to take advantage of.
That's what Im talking about. Most of us want to play this game with everything
MAXED OUT to get the best visual experience. Therefore i dont hesitate to drop in a 3rd or even 4th gtx480 into my rig. You will need a VERY powerful system to get the most joy out of this game... Get the latest and BEST hardware so you wont be disappointed.
3-4 graphics cards? Come on

I mean, it's your money but isn't that a bit extreme? Going to all that trouble just to run one title at full detail a few months earlier? All you gain is seeing some features a few months earlier, that's all.

I never do SLI/crossfire for this very simple reason...today's double GPU solutions cost more and perform less than the single GPU of 6 months in the future.

I agree with what the other people are saying...the way PCs evolve today, you could buy a $2500 rig and it could be surpassed before you even have the chance to stress it to the maximum. If it doesn't get the chance to get used and stressed to its limits, it's wasted money plain and simple. What would i do in your position? Get the best foundation for a good PC by buying a good case, PSU and CPU, ie the things that don't get rendered obsolete every 6 months. Then, use mid-range components for the things that might need more frequent upgrades.

That's actually exactly how i'm set up right now...i have two 1.5 TB disks, an Asus P6T Deluxe, 3GB of RAM and a 700W power supply. I run a stock i7 920 with an Ati 4890 1Gb. All in all, i've spent about 1500 Euros on this rig over a few months (high quality IPS monitor included in the price). I could have gone for dual 4890x2 or 12GB of RAM but i didn't.
I wait for the 6xxx series cards to hit the market and nVidia to regain some lost ground that will force Ati to further drop the prices. Then i'm going to buy a 5970 or something like that for a mere $200 and have the same performance as someone who built a rig the same time as i did, but decided to spend $500 on dual 4890x2 right off the bat. In a similar fashion, when i7 prices drop due to the release of sandy bridge CPUs, i can exchange my 920 for a high end six-core at half the price it costs now.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:16 PM
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3-4 graphics cards? Come on

I mean, it's your money but isn't that a bit extreme? Going to all that trouble just to run one title at full detail a few months earlier? All you gain is seeing some features a few months earlier, that's all.

I never do SLI/crossfire for this very simple reason...today's double GPU solutions cost more and perform less than the single GPU of 6 months in the future.

I agree with what the other people are saying...the way PCs evolve today, you could buy a $2500 rig and it could be surpassed before you even have the chance to stress it to the maximum. If it doesn't get the chance to get used and stressed to its limits, it's wasted money plain and simple. What would i do in your position? Get the best foundation for a good PC by buying a good case, PSU and CPU, ie the things that don't get rendered obsolete every 6 months. Then, use mid-range components for the things that might need more frequent upgrades.

That's actually exactly how i'm set up right now...i have two 1.5 TB disks, an Asus P6T Deluxe, 3GB of RAM and a 700W power supply. I run a stock i7 920 with an Ati 4890 1Gb. All in all, i've spent about 1500 Euros on this rig over a few months (high quality IPS monitor included in the price). I could have gone for dual 4890x2 or 12GB of RAM but i didn't.
I wait for the 6xxx series cards to hit the market and nVidia to regain some lost ground that will force Ati to further drop the prices. Then i'm going to buy a 5970 or something like that for a mere $200 and have the same performance as someone who built a rig the same time as i did, but decided to spend $500 on dual 4890x2 right off the bat. In a similar fashion, when i7 prices drop due to the release of sandy bridge CPUs, i can exchange my 920 for a high end six-core at half the price it costs now.
Yes. Why would I pay a premium price "now" for hardware to play a game that is not yet released? I could wait until it is released and pay less for the same hardware. Or I could spend the same amount of money in the future that I would spend now and get BETTER hardware.

I won't be upgrading the day the game comes out. I'll wait until other people report back on how their rigs, their new hardware, runs the game.

Most of the time when I upgrade, I end up saving a lot of money by just buying the things that will get me the most increase in performance right now. I have been burned in the past by buying video cards and CPU's that the game I was intending to play could not take advantage of. Oh, eventually something else comes out that justifies the excess hardware, but by that time the hardware in my system could have been bought for 60% of what I paid.

Think about it, the hardware companies WANT you to buy the bleeding edge components to play the latest software, that's why they often work with the development companies. Development companies walk the line between providing a product that can be used by the bulk of gamers right now (medium and low settings) and the gamers that must have the latest and greatest hardware (bleeding edge expensive hardware). There is a push/pull there between hardware companies and developers that I just don't want to be involved in with my wallet.

It's gonna suck if you spend $400 extra for a CPU with maximum cores right now when the games won't use those extra cores for a year or two. Been in a similar situation myself and it didn't feel good.

I mean, unless you have money to burn and in that case, who am I to tell you what to do with your money?

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Old 11-08-2010, 07:01 PM
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And not forgetting that complexity and driver related bugs grows fast when you go more than two cards in SLI or Crossfire.
Really not worth it .
We probably will be able to play with everything maxed out in 3-5 years like someone here posted before.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:52 PM
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Here's a crazy idea! Why not just wait until the full game is released and try it with your current hardware? Yes, I know it sounds crazy but what's the point of upgrading before you even have the game? I thought I had pre-release jitters, geeez...
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:57 PM
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Here's a crazy idea! Why not just wait until the full game is released and try it with your current hardware? Yes, I know it sounds crazy but what's the point of upgrading before you even have the game? I thought I had pre-release jitters, geeez...
I agree....simply because the game was running well on an i5 with gtx-460 (albeit with 2 gb ram) at (apparently) high settings....well, who's to say it won't run well on a less-powerful set-up with moderate settings? (which may still look awesome?)
unless of course you wish to make the best of any upcoming sales. If so, future-proof as much possible (if possible)
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:58 PM
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OMG, this is mad people's forum

First of all: any high end cpu/gpu of today (like the one originally posted) will perfectly run original release of BoB. Be sure.

Second: if the reason of getting a new pc is BoB, why not buying it as soon as it is released and tenths or hundreds of reviews will be available? You save money and you get best value for them.

Third: there are kids dying of starvation. Don't spend thousands of dollars for an extra frame in a game. Even if you donate to UNICEF, it's STILL a wrong luxury to aim for 123 FPS instead of poor 120 FPS...
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:04 PM
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OMG, this is mad people's forum
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Third: there are kids dying of starvation. Don't spend thousands of dollars for an extra frame in a game. Even if you donate to UNICEF, it's STILL a wrong luxury to aim for 123 FPS instead of poor 120 FPS...
Possibly there is a language problem...but nevertheless I have to point out that it's my money...If I want to light a cigar with a Hundred dollar bill, it's my choice.....
... I'll judge what "luxury" is 'right' for me, as will others judge for themselves.
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P.S. I'll probably only leave this post up for a day or so, then delete.


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Last edited by DoolittleRaider; 11-11-2010 at 12:38 AM. Reason: Point was made...got that off my chest. thanks for listening.Now...back to the original theme of the thread.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:48 PM
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Possibly there is a language problem...but nevertheless I have to point out that it's my money...If I want to light a cigar with a Hundred dollar bill, it's my choice...My Money. MY money. Keyword is "MY" not "yours".

It is totally irrelevant if "kids are dying of starvation". That may sound harsh...but, MY contributions to charities are MY Business (and very substantial, though that is also irrelevant). I'll judge what "luxury" is 'right' for me, as will others judge for themselves. It's not your place to judge someone else's use of THEIR money as "Wrong".

If YOU want to sing "We are the World" and wave lighted candles while you sway slowly left and right, I suggest you do it someplace else. imho

Did you hit a sensitive nerve, you betcha! Lots of talk these days in the US about redistribution of wealth...it gets old.

Signed..."Cranky Old Man"

P.S. I'll probably only leave this post up for a day or so, then delete. I don't want the thread to go too far off track for too long.
Wow! This is like when I humbly try to tell my wife that some exercise could be both fun and good for the health
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:59 PM
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Wow! This is like when I humbly try to tell my wife that some exercise could be both fun and good for the health
+ 1000 too recognisable
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