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[Necrobaron]

Regarding Kraken's post:

Geez, the little details they are modelling are amazing. Loosening the safety harness for better visibility at the increased risk of body movement during hard maneuvering is pretty neat.

By "flame burns through skin" are we to infer that fire will now dynamically burn through aircraft aluminum?
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[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Necrobaron

By "flame burns through skin" are we to infer that fire will now dynamically burn through aircraft aluminum?

1. Now any part of the plane (and not only engines, or fuel tanks, as it was in IL-2) can catch fire.
2. If a part burned for too long, it turns into damaged state (if not already).
3. The fire can spread onto neighboring parts, i.e. you may catch fire somewhere in the middle of a wing and then, in some time the whole plane, from nose to tail will be ablaze, if you don't manage to extinguish it somehow.

[philip.ed]

That's awesome.
Will oxygen, say if the fire was in the cockpit, cause the flames to be more fierce. SO if we turned the oxygen supply off, the flames would go out?

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

That's awesome.
Will oxygen, say if the fire was in the cockpit, cause the flames to be more fierce. SO if we turned the oxygen supply off, the flames would go out?

If the fire is in cockpit, IRL you would be concerned how to get out ASAP and not how to extinguish it. Because oxygen, or not, you'll get a severe burns in the matter of seconds. IL-2, IMO is way more forgiving in that part, i.e. it gives you much more time when the plane is burning, then you'd have IRL.

PS. BTW, that's what AI does in game, they may try to extinguish the flames somehow, when a wing or tail burns. But if fire gets too close to the cockpit, they just bail out.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

If the fire is in cockpit, IRL you would be concerned how to get out ASAP and not how to extinguish it. Because oxygen, or not, you'll get a severe burns in the matter of seconds. IL-2, IMO is way more forgiving in that part, i.e. it gives you much more time when the plane is burning, then you'd have IRL.

PS. BTW, that's what AI does in game, they may try to extinguish the flames somehow, when a wing or tail burns. But if fire gets too close to the cockpit, they just bail out.

Yes, I agree! Although I'm sure I've read a pilot report where the fire was coming from the oxygen tank, and he turned it off (first) in order to stop the flames coming out of the mask! As the d-type oxygen mask uses an open-flow system.
This is quite complex though, and the fact that what you have said is programmed into the AI is awesome.

[NSU]

thx Rodolphe, nice listing

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I've read a pilot report where the fire was coming from the oxygen tank, and he turned it off (first) in order to stop the flames coming out of the mask! As the d-type oxygen mask uses an open-flow system.
This is quite complex though, and the fact that what you have said is programmed into the AI is awesome.

In the first place, it is rather rare happening. He, probably, got some oxygen lines between tank and mask partially severed, so the fire was sucked by air flow and brought into the mask.
It would require a lots of things programmed to get such situation possible, but would it be justified, taking in account, this situation may happen, like, once in million?

I think, you'd have enough bother, managing your fuel tanks and engines.

[philip.ed]

Yes, you're right, it was a very rare situation.
What wasn't rare, though, was for fire, which has gotten into the cockpit, to be pushed into the pilots face by the mask because the mask acted as a human blow torch Scary stuff. Turning off the oxygen supply to the mask would help stop this

[Rodolphe]

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN

In the first place, it is rather rare happening. He, probably, got some oxygen lines between tank and mask partially severed, so the fire was sucked by air flow and brought into the mask.

Though the Oxygen regulator gages are visible on the instrument panel, the Oxygen lines are, for some strange reason, missing on this WIP screen of the Hurricane.








Hurricane Mk I Air Publication 1564A

#59 Oxygen supply bayonet socket







Hurricane Mk II Air Publication 1564B & D

#6 Oxygen supply cock.


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