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Old 11-04-2010, 01:00 AM
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DT is run by volunteers who love what they do, not by some centralized corporation with dedicated "project managers".

Nothing was ever promised, nor owed, by DT. Just be happy you're getting a patch at all, and don't feel so entitled to one.

But since you seem to know a lot about project management, would you like to volunteer to "help" them out? I'm sure you would do an excellent job.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:53 AM
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Ah, yes, the 'insult the workers so they work harder' school of 'management'. They aren't your employees, or anyone else's.

AS for 'project management', can you please tell us how it is possible to timetable a voluntary spare-time project, using tools you've never seen, developing new software to integrate with a system that it's own design team acknowledges is 'incestuous code', and adding further features while developing?
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:03 AM
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Okay, in case you guys actually don't read what gets posted in these, or other, forums and just blindly post daft comments and complaints, here is a quick reminder of what was said a few months ago:

One of the DT team posted that a large part of the reason for the delay in the release of 4.10 was that Oleg gave DT access to certain in-house software tools and this meant a certain period of catch up time while they learned to use these tools before proceeding with completing the update. From what I could understand of what was posted this was a tricky thing to do and large parts of the 4.10 content had to be started from scratch...(?)

Have you ever tried to learn from scratch a complicated piece of software and then proceeded to create something the size and scope of what 4.10 is supposed to be with that software, and all in your spare time, i.e. when you are not working to pay the bills, feed the kids, walk the dog, fix the roof, etc, etc, etc? I very much doubt most of you would say yes - I certainly have never done anything like that, but I'm not surprised that it's taken a while for these guys to complete the work!

And I'm definately not surprised that they aren't overly talkative with you guys. If I was on the team I wouldn't come near this place as I'd likely end up wanting to firebomb your homes after reading all the BS you guys write!
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:37 AM
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Okay, in case you guys actually don't read what gets posted in these, or other, forums and just blindly post daft comments and complaints, here is a quick reminder of what was said a few months ago:

One of the DT team posted that a large part of the reason for the delay in the release of 4.10 was that Oleg gave DT access to certain in-house software tools and this meant a certain period of catch up time while they learned to use these tools before proceeding with completing the update. From what I could understand of what was posted this was a tricky thing to do and large parts of the 4.10 content had to be started from scratch...(?)

Have you ever tried to learn from scratch a complicated piece of software and then proceeded to create something the size and scope of what 4.10 is supposed to be with that software, and all in your spare time, i.e. when you are not working to pay the bills, feed the kids, walk the dog, fix the roof, etc, etc, etc? I very much doubt most of you would say yes - I certainly have never done anything like that, but I'm not surprised that it's taken a while for these guys to complete the work!

And I'm definately not surprised that they aren't overly talkative with you guys. If I was on the team I wouldn't come near this place as I'd likely end up wanting to firebomb your homes after reading all the BS you guys write!
Quick note to self - Don't annoy TOOZ!

TD have done a fantastic job in the past. I sure when they finish the new patch it'll add a whole new lease of life to IL2. Keep up the good work TD!

Cheers!
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:49 AM
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Quick note to self - Don't annoy TOOZ!

TD have done a fantastic job in the past. I sure when they finish the new patch it'll add a whole new lease of life to IL2. Keep up the good work TD!

Cheers!
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:44 AM
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Quick note to self - Don't annoy TOOZ!

TD have done a fantastic job in the past. I sure when they finish the new patch it'll add a whole new lease of life to IL2. Keep up the good work TD!

Cheers!
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I do absolutely agree also!

But please DT, sometimes a short update of progress would be nice.
Even if it would be: "we only did drink beer this week"
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:28 AM
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Every week we find a new bug. Solve it, another one pops up.

We are planing a closed Online event this weekend.

We also try to have a personal life. Some are more successful in that department than the others. Some even work on jobs unrelated to Il2 and get paid for it! Go figure.

None of us is willing to speculate when the patch will be ready for release. One guess was enough.

That's all.

BTW, all that speculation that Oleg is prohibiting something in 4.10 is funny. We love conspiracy theories. Keep up with it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:31 AM
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If I was on the team I wouldn't come near this place as I'd likely end up wanting to firebomb your homes after reading all the BS you guys write!
No, not likely. DT members are not that bloodthirsty. They rather come here to read all those BS comments for a good laugh.

So, no need to fight, just let people make fools of themselves - it is much more effective and costs less of your energy.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:25 AM
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No, not likely. DT members are not that bloodthirsty. They rather come here to read all those BS comments for a good laugh.

So, no need to fight, just let people make fools of themselves - it is much more effective and costs less of your energy.
Well, that's probably a good reason why I am not on any kind of dev team for anything!
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:47 AM
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I have to say that reading some posts here realy get me to remember why i stopped modding games.

Way better to just enjoy the work my self instead of having the "i want`ers" in the buttz...

DT. Take your time.....Time = quality

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