Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

[philip.ed]

To be fair, Tree posted the whole conversation with Ubi at the time. Tree's evidence is tangible, where as sasquon's barely borders on credible.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

From my observations on 1C forums - actually the answer is few months or even a month ago.

Yep, if a western publisher has existed for many months or years they should be taken behind a shed and shot for not doing any PR work at all for this title...

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

It's "no matter, if this true, or not - you didn't hear it from me, you don't know me and I never have told you anything".

No worries, you've said more than enough, and should now delete your posts.

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Over a year ago i posted up my conversation with james oreilly at ubisoft, they dont come much higher than him hes the group brand manager.

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

dont listen to these guys who pretend that they are on the 'inner circle' half of them are full of shite.

Mmm.

[Redwan]

Thanks for your interesting comments about the clouds. I have made some researches on the web and indeed it seems that the FSX clouds, although quite realistic, are not very 3D. They are reported to vanish when one flies through them without occulting the view, which is, I agree, not compatible with the requirements of a combat flight sim.

However I’m still not happy with the graphic quality of the BoB clouds seen until now.

They look too much like an ensemble of cotton wool balls and I hope that Oleg’s team will find a solution to make them look more homogeneous in the future.

And I even don’t talk about heaving a complex multilayer cloud system (even if Oleg promised that … but he promised so many things …) like this:



… but at least I would like to have some realistic looking cumulus’s.

When thermals are active in the middle of a sunny day, the bottoms of these clouds should be more flat, more compact and much darker ! Is it so difficult for an advanced graphic engine like the one used in BoB to produce something more realistic ?

Where are the dynamic wind effects that are claimed by Oleg to be affecting the shapes of the clouds ? Until now, all the clouds I have seen look all similar, like so many clones of one single cotton wool ball floating in a static and boring atmosphere.

Let’s compare BoB and the reality.



With some little photoshop changes BoB clouds could look much more realistic and I can’t believe that BoB’s graphic engine cannot do that. I think that the poor quality of clouds is due to a lack of attention to the completions (lack of time, budget, need to focus on more important bugs …)



PS. Even if I seem to focus on the quality of the clouds (which is quite normal as far as we talk about a flight simulator), please keep in mind that I really appreciate the other great qualities of BoB and the improvements done since Il2.

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

No worries, you've said more than enough, and should now delete your posts.

Could you please refrain from telling a long-standing member of this forum and a close collaborator of Oleg Maddox whether he should delete his posts or not? What kind of BS attitude is that? We're lucky that we have Oleg M, Luthier and Saqson communicating with us in this forum, so please keep your uncouth behaviour out of here.

This forum is worse than the Ubizoo ever was and I'm actually beginning to HOPE that the development team members will just stop posting in here, because it is becoming such a waste of time to wade through all the drivel for the very few worthwhile contributions in here. Oleg, Luthier and Saqson should just get on with their important work and ditch this crap forum, it is just not worth their time...

Sign of the times I guess. People get a rare privilege and proceed to sh*t all over it.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by mazex

Yep, if a western publisher has existed for many months or years they should be taken behind a shed and shot for not doing any PR work at all for this title...

Rule N°1:
When you start the promotion the product must be available.
Everything else is waste of money.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by swiss

Rule N°1:
When you start the promotion the product must be available.
Everything else is waste of money.

Internet marketing need no products - it's all about generating hype Just look at Gran Turismo 5... Did they wait with marketing until the product was done? Ever heard of Diablo III?

Originally Posted by Osprey

You must be serious if you haven't anything funny to say about it.

I didn't say either, but I'm certainly not interested in massaging the ego of Tree. "I know a big hitter at Ubi blah blah"

There's absolutely nothing anybody can do about whoever the publisher is, the deal would've signed months or even years ago.

To be fair to you your a relatively new here so you would not have seen the any of the earlier posts regarding UBI.

[Chivas]

We have no verify-able source for the existence of a western publisher. UBI hasn't commented since 2006, Oleg hasn't commented. We have a forum member who says he's talked to UBI, but thats not verify-able. Either way it doesn't matter, we will get copies in the west one way or another.

Hopefully there will be some type of workable copy protection. I get a kick out of people who say copy right protection isn't needed...and wonder what they would be say, if it were their product, and their money people were stealing.

[Chivas]

Clouds.....we have yet to see all the cloud variations due to bugs in cloud code. Why all the pictures, everyone knows what clouds look like, even the developer. I'm sure the developer will release the most realistic clouds they can within the restrictions of game code, hardware, and fps hit.