Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

[rocker_lx]

Great Update, I'm really looking forward to this game.

I followed the tracer round discussion with great interest and I don't know anything about guns and ammunition.

But I seem to have understood that tracer rounds where jiggling and after a short distance followed a complete other path than the conventional ammuntion due to the different ballistics.

This was at least what the guys from the B17-II simulator where doing some years ago, their tracers had smoke and where jiggling in the air. Never seen more convincing tracers in any sim since.

I don't want to sound like a basher, for me this is a small detail and the game looks very promising.

Great job Oleg and team.

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by rocker_lx

But I seem to have understood that tracer rounds where jiggling and after a short distance followed a complete other path than the conventional ammuntion due to the different ballistics.

This was at least what the guys from the B17-II simulator where doing some years ago, their tracers had smoke and where jiggling in the air. Never seen more convincing tracers in any sim since.

One of the oldest urban legends of the flight sim community, and B-17 II was heavily involved in creating it. Nevertheless, tracers do not behave like that. They do not jiggle around in random zig-zag patterns while still maintaining their rough trajectory. It's physically impossible, and it would make them completely useless.

As others have already pointed out, this is purely the camera shaking that causes tracers to look like that. Watch any footage where the camera is not mounted on the firing platform, and the tracers are straight lines. Just like shown in today's video

[Madfish]

Over all I really like the movie. Especially the comparison to IL-2

One minor thing I noticed: There are mirrored clouds in the gauges but they don't move at all even if the plane moves. Is that something that will change during the final stages?
It looks kind of neat to see reflections and all but it'd be weird to see clouds in the gauges if you fly a loop and actually have ground behind/below you, not the horizon. In fact it'd be neat to be able to have a natural feeling by being able to pick up external factors like mirrored reflections.

[DoolittleRaider]

Doesn't anyone ever get banned here for intentional spamming, trouble-making?

[BK_JG27_Treiber]

Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider

Doesn't anyone ever get banned here for intentional spamming, trouble-making?

I don't think so, because moderation here is virtually non-existent. If it weren't, this place would actually be habitable.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by JG52Driver

I don't think so, because moderation here is virtually non-existent. If it weren't, this place would actually be habitable.

Extremely constructive.

[BK_JG27_Treiber]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Extremely constructive.

Thank you.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by JG52Driver

I don't think so, because moderation here is virtually non-existent. If it weren't, this place would actually be habitable.

It's not that bad. After a while you know who to ignore as white noise. Nearmiss cleans up the worst of the offenses. I haven't seen a certain forum member here for a number of weeks. I don't know if his absence was self imposed or not.

While somethings that people see baffle me, for what ever reason they are important to the person who asks. Ultimately the free discourse of ideas adds to the conversation, and I (at least) usually learn a bit of something.