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Mustang 3 and P-51D are only the 2 best fighters of the game. To me Fw 190 D-9 is only almost as good as the D5NT/NA. And to do that the 51 doesnt need any modifications...
If you put planes and players into historical situations flown historically, even without putting the worse pilots to German side, you can expect, and you will get, historical results. If you test Ai vs. Ai I-16 type 24 is the best fighter of WW2 ![]() |
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Good documentary over on the BoP board. P51 history.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...577#post191577 EDIT : There's a great story of an American Pilot who stole a 109 and used it to escape after his '51 was shot down (Part 2) Last edited by winny; 10-21-2010 at 07:30 PM. |
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It didn't bother me nor many on-line P-51 pilots that were good at flying it. Yes, it should have been fixed, but accurate as they are in un-moded game, one can also find advantages. ![]()
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Great video Thor, that's some nice flying. Its pretty deadly if flown by an experienced pilot
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You just need to spend more time in the P-51 and get to know its strengths.
The AI routines differ for each plane slightly (I believe Oleg had confirmed this sometime) and for some reason, the AI with the P-51 is particularly "stupid" - not attacking when the enemy on my six is right in front or him, for instance. Using Il-2 Compare, the D is the fastest of the group, but not by much. The "problem" is that it's slow at accelerating so you have to be especially vigilant to not bleed off your speed. Try to fly it less like a Bf-109, and more like a P-38. Having a team-mate is very important in case you get in trouble. I have been able to outrun almost anything in a P-51 if the trim is good. The only thing to give me a hard time (at low level btw) were La-7s and the dreadful I-185 type 71. I've outrun Spit25s without problem and have caught the "uber" Dora. To me it seems that because the P-51 was on the winning side of the war, that it was some wonder-machine. People love to cite how Goerring apparently said something along the lines of, we've lost the war, after seeing P-51s over Berlin. I feel he would have said the same thing (if he ever did) if those were P-40s or Spitfires. It didn't matter how good the P-51 was - all that mattered was that the daylight bombers now had an escort for their entire trip to and from Germany, making it just that much harder for German pilots to shoot them down. That's it! It doesn't have to be un-breakable, pull fancy maneuvers, tear wings off by lobbing huge cannon rounds - it just has to be fast and keep the interceptors at bay so the bombers can do their work. Also, keep in mind by the time the P-51 was around, the Axis forces had already lost many of their best pilots and new recruits were being pressed into service with very abbreviated training. Allied pilots, especially American, had the luxury of a full-blown training cycle, and so were better off from the start. There's this sort of "cult of personality" about the P-51 that I wish didn't have to be. I feel that it's causing this disappointment when people first fly it, and realize it's not a La-7. All that said, I feel it's great online if flown carefully. (Thor's video is proof of that!) I've not flown a real Mustang myself, but someone who did has said that while it's fast as it should be, some aspects of the handling are not quite the same. Quote:
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@TEMPEST123
You are correct that the fuselage tank historically caused directional stability problems and as a result was really more of a ferry tank, acrobatic style maneuvers were forbidden when it still contained fuel and that tank was meant to be emptied first. HOWEVER I am pretty certain that fuselage tank was first fitted on the P51B and C so any in-game stability issues resulting from the fuselage tank should show up on those models as well. Last edited by WTE_Galway; 10-21-2010 at 09:15 PM. |
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