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Old 10-21-2010, 01:21 AM
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What?
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1801938

Next thing you tell me is the US actually won the Vietnam War?
Well we DID win every major military engagement . But our heart wasn't in it. We weren't willing to do what it would take to actually win politically....too many civilian deaths would be involved. The North Vietnamese knew this and exploited it very well...just put those AA installations next to a school.

We used to give out t-shirts to our baseball players when I coached. They said "Go Hard or Go Home". Too bad politicians don't always understand such a simple concept.

Damned hippies....

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Old 10-21-2010, 02:14 AM
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What?
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1801938 Do not use 60 year old articles to prove your point. There is much good information about German production and plans for expansion and how the General staff was much afraid of Hitler.

Next thing you tell me is the US actually won the Vietnam War? Tecnically the South lost the War.


Of course it was only about the sooo loved Kuwaitis. We did fly our flag on their tankers during the Iran-Iraq (oh, sorry 1st Gulf War) but you were not even born then See the history of the USS Samuel B. Roberts, for an interesting read!


No, actually not. This hate is reserved to treehugers and other do-gooders. In fact I had a discussion about this with Splitter.
But I don't have too many infos on the pacific war, I guess I'll do some research during the next few days.
Japan did some brutal business in Asia and received some brutal payback.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:06 AM
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Germany was about as unprepeared for World War 2 as any other country.
You must be living in a parallel world with an alternate history.. this must be interesting.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:19 AM
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This whole middle east story, is about more than the drugs and oil, as the west (USA, UK, etc.) have supported both sides at one time or another.
The side they supported was the 'puppet in their interest', but as shown many times in the past that if you cannot win the minds and souls, you cannot win
The souls are not winnable, as the opposing groups are fundentally different in religion and culture.

The trick is to just leave the cultures alone and let them destroy (or develop) themselves. Even when they're divided don't think that it's a good time to attack as this idea has backfired in a big way, many times throughout history.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:00 AM
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You must be living in a parallel world with an alternate history.. this must be interesting.
If you researched this topic you would be very surprised how unready Germany was for war and how close the German General Staff came to overthrowing Hitler before the invasion of Poland.

I would also probably shock you since I believe the Maginot Line actually served it's purpose and forced the Germans to attack around it!

I know that this is a tough pill to swallow for a lot of Euros, but Hitler could have been easily defeated by some Allied action in the 1930's; that was my only point! My "alternate" universe may have made the world a more dangerous place, with no Hitler buffer against the Soviet Union or some other unintended consequences
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