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Old 10-20-2010, 12:44 AM
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A small comparison with WoP that has been mentioned here (got in a bit too low and some guy in a spit joined my 2 player host while going on my photo run and shot me down so no second attempt )

It's getting hard to say which one is best now...



Not really.. not for us at least.. now WoP is best.. the old bird in the hand.. but once we finally get our mitts on SoW....
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:42 AM
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Not really.. not for us at least.. now WoP is best.. the old bird in the hand.. but once we finally get our mitts on SoW....
Funny, whenever I am in the air, the ground looks grayish/blueish, without any fancy colors.
Picture number one comes pretty close.
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:29 AM
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Not really.. not for us at least.. now WoP is best.. the old bird in the hand.. but once we finally get our mitts on SoW....


oleg said some times that sow will be best than wop in graphics too. and, of course, in simulation.

but now i see that images... and ...
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Ooh, it makes me wonder
...Ooh, it really makes me wonder

There's a feeling I get
When I look to the west
And my spirit is crying
For leaving...


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Old 10-21-2010, 11:24 AM
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Not really.. not for us at least.. now WoP is best.. the old bird in the hand.. but once we finally get our mitts on SoW....
Questions that to understand what is important for you:

1. Stylish colors in game with overbumped textures
2. Unprecise models and cockpits (most part of which are direct port from old Il-2)
3. Simplified comparing to original Il-2 FM, DM, AI
4. Non historical use of aircraft
5. Absence of realistic weapon
6. non interesting online.

or

1. Correct pallete and more close to real things colors at different time of the day and canges with alitude with modeling of physics for these processes
2. Precise models and completely new precise cockpits that will set new standards in industry of military fligth sims how it was done by original Il-2 in 2001 for a years ahead
3. More complex in calculations comparing to original Il-2 FM, DM (as well as its visuals), AI (that will do many things that were historical)
4. Historical use of aircraft and its loading (and its modeling in principle)
5. Realistic physics of weapons
6. interesting online


My opinion:

You try to name the best the game that has other target auditory... Say from 12 to 16, that is of course great part of players. Yes, it is very good game based on ortiginal Il-2 with better or say better some modern graphics features (mostly effects) than the original Il-2... But simplified in general in many ways.

In the oher hand we are doing for the 12 to 100 age... that I'm in hope will be again the reference for comparison like it was Il-2 for its time. But 100% sure at least with some of the most important for the combat fligth sim features it will be really reference for comparison for a long time.

Still even Il-2 series is a reference for many things. There is a lot of things that was present for the first time in the world and on the sim market. Still many things that makes this sim playable by many even no after so many years.

Lets will return back to this speech after a year of BoB on the market.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:57 AM
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You tell 'em Oleg!! Hehe! I have no doubt that SoW will "set the bar" for many years to come.

Just something I need to ask you Oleg - I fear that it may already have been answered before ... if it has, I'm sorry!

It's the AI that SoW will have - in IL-2 one's squadron/section often/usually leaves one way behind in spite of one trying to maintain a gradual and reasonably fast ascent - not wanting to test the ol' Merlin too much before she overheats!!

In SoW will the AI and the individual player's airctaft be "closer" performance-wise. I understand that the AI in IL-2 was near-perfect (perfect trim etc) and that's why guys like me couldn't keep up!

Keep up the graet work - it gives so many of us so much pleasure! It must really make you feel good!
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:23 PM
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You tell 'em Oleg!! Hehe! I have no doubt that SoW will "set the bar" for many years to come.

Just something I need to ask you Oleg - I fear that it may already have been answered before ... if it has, I'm sorry!

It's the AI that SoW will have - in IL-2 one's squadron/section often/usually leaves one way behind in spite of one trying to maintain a gradual and reasonably fast ascent - not wanting to test the ol' Merlin too much before she overheats!!

In SoW will the AI and the individual player's airctaft be "closer" performance-wise. I understand that the AI in IL-2 was near-perfect (perfect trim etc) and that's why guys like me couldn't keep up!

Keep up the graet work - it gives so many of us so much pleasure! It must really make you feel good!
Can't tell you all details of AI. I would tell that it is more humanized in principle and doing very similar things to real things.

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How's the boy, is he feeling better yet has he lost his temperature?
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:00 PM
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How's the boy, is he feeling better yet has he lost his temperature?
Its Ok, thanks, but I personally have no time at the moment to sit near him to play.
I just did for him several new simple missions where he can win with his entry level experience .
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:02 PM
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Glad your boy is feeling better Oleg, how is moscow, getting cold yet?

And also...is there a chance of a sound update this week?
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Its Ok, thanks, but I personally have no time at the moment to sit near him to play.
I just did for him several new simple missions where he can win with his entry level experience .
Good to hear that he is on the mend, as that is the most important thing. Thank you also for taking the time out of your busy schedule to chat as well as it is much appreciated.
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