Friday 2010-10-08 Dev. update and Discussion

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Actually no dear chap. The main reason that our spelling is different is because in Britain the english language continued to evolve throughout the 18th, 19th and even 20th centuries, a living language, from cultural influences of mainland europe, in particular the French.
When the english language arrived in North America through the 17th century it was before these influences and shielded from them, in effect separated. So we see words like centre and center, colonise and colonize etc. Unfortunately globalisation and American made computer companies are teaching much of the World the Americanised spellings.

Of course this has little bearing on grammar and I have no doubt made many mistakes of my own here, however "ain't I right?" is surely in breach of many rules of english.

Languages in use change and evolve, dead languages, like latin, are a constant.

Two countries separated by a common language . "Ain't I right?" also breaks several laws of physics, that's why I used it . At least we're not the Scots....we go see a band every year called Albannach and I can't understand a word they say! (The music is awesome though)

I hope they get the accents right in SoW. I hear VERY American accents when flying for the RAF and I doubt many Yanks were flying for them in the South Pacific (could be wrong but I would be surprised). And the Geraman ground control always sounds angry.

BTW, if you don't like the way we have messed up the language thus far, wait until our kids come into their own...they're worse than the Scots .

Splitter

[Insuber]

tsk tsk ... try harder, you are not enough OT yet ... I suggest treating your last holiday trip, or your preferred soccer team ...

[julien673]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Actually no dear chap. The main reason that our spelling is different is because in Britain the english language continued to evolve throughout the 18th, 19th and even 20th centuries, a living language, from cultural influences of mainland europe, in particular the French.
When the english language arrived in North America through the 17th century it was before these influences and shielded from them, in effect separated. So we see words like centre and center, colonise and colonize etc. Unfortunately globalisation and American made computer companies are teaching much of the World the Americanised spellings.

Of course this has little bearing on grammar and I have no doubt made many mistakes of my own here, however "ain't I right?" is surely in breach of many rules of english.

Languages in use change and evolve, dead languages, like latin, are a constant.

Not true, its from the 11th century, when Guillaume invade the island, is just that usa ( i dont like to said amerain .... ) elvove in other direction

Sry for the english agains.

IF the game is playable ? ? Just to know how good is the AI I hope we can do surprise attack, from behind

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by julien673

Not true, its from the 11th century, when Guillaume invade the island, is just that usa ( i dont like to said amerain .... ) elvove in other direction

Sry for the english agains.

You missed the part where I said that english language evolution continued from the 17c, where 'US english' was protected from that.

English is a bastardised mix of everybody who has invaded the island since the Romans, not starting from 11c. The true language of this island is closer to welsh if anything, the only part that was here first and didn't get wiped out totally by invaders.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Osprey

English is a bastardised mix of everybody who has invaded the island since the Romans, not starting from 11c. The true language of this island is closer to welsh if anything, the only part that was here first and didn't get wiped out totally by invaders.

I've not been on the forum for a couple of days, so hadn't noticed the debate a bit of humourous (humorous) banter caused!
Osprey is correct, although where the original pictish and celtic folk who populated the Island came from I don't know.
We really shouldn't criticise our colonial friends for corrupting the language, as the language is a corruption in itself. But I can't help doing so and it amuses me.

@Splitter, I always assumed the American accents in RAF missions were supposed to be Canadian.
Was I wrong? And have I just made another social 'faux pas'?!

[Splitter]

Aw heck, Dutch, now I am going to have to listen to the chatter more closely! Canadian is possible, but I am not hearing the "eh?" at the end of sentences....."Stay with your leader, eh?" . Canadian accents and northern midwest US accents are pretty close in some ways, but the "eh?" is tell tale.

German and Japanese voices in games usually have that "angry" tone and I think that comes from the movies (where they are always angry).

Splitter

[Richie]

That's BS we don't have accents just Newfies. I don't say boot instead of boat.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by Richie

That's BS we don't have accents just Newfies. I don't say boot instead of boat.

Easy Richie, we have different dialects down here too. New York and South Carolina sound like different countries. The upper midwest has their accent, New England has its' own, Texas is different from other southern accents, California does its' own thing. And there are others. (But yes, we can usually also pick out Canadians in any event....they are the ones with the funny looking money )

I do hope some care is taken when presenting the radio chatter in SoW. Not every American pilot was a good ole' southern boy nor a Blue Blooded New Englander. Not all Brits sound like a member of the royal family nor a working class Londoner.

We talk about immersion and hope the engine sounds are good....but what about the language and radio chatter? I don't "think" it would be that hard, or that expensive, to put some variety into these things for SoW.

Maybe this is already taken care of. We have no way of knowing since we have not heard any voice audio. Is it of "initial release" importance? Probably not, but it would be nice.

Splitter

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by Splitter

German and Japanese voices in games usually have that "angry" tone and I think that comes from the movies (where they are always angry).

I've always liked "Control Tower Fritz, allways sound like he has beer and sauerkraut ready for me when I land.

[DD_crash]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

I've always liked "Control Tower Fritz, allways sound like he has beer and sauerkraut ready for me when I land.

+1 HaHa