Friday 2010-10-08 Dev. update and Discussion

[rakinroll]

Thank you.

[krz9000]

oleg, why not just tweak saturation as a post-effect? to do it on texture level is a huge job i guess.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by krz9000

oleg, why not just tweak saturation as a post-effect? to do it on texture level is a huge job i guess.

Colors of the vegetation are reading from the texture where they are... oops... I said some secret. So some time they originnal basic color maybe incorrect and looking vivid. Its what we are tuning.. relly ins't easy some time to get all looking right. But I hope we will get it finally... too many new technologies that were developed intially for this projet are going now at once.... Same was with Il-2 where about 20 new technics and technologies were presented for the first time in the world working right and without bugs....
Hope to get the same with this project... but its more harder to to greater overal complexity...

[zxwings]

Thank you Oleg for the update! It's a happy thing to see the new screenshots every week!

This is not a complaint, or a nitpick, just a question.



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In this pic, you can see the difference in detail in the house texture. The top floor is more detailed than the bottom floor. This is usually a result of draw distance of Level or Detail (LOD) settings dictating the detail dropping off at a distance, like in the below shot.



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As you can see, the detail in this shot is dropping off the further away you get from the building and the texture.

My question: what is causing the lower LOD in the first shot? The top floor and bottom floor appear to be the exact same distance away from the camera, so why the two different levels of detail? Does it have something to do with the shadows being cast on it by the building itself?

Thanks.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

This is not a complaint, or a nitpick, just a question.



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In this pic, you can see the difference in detail in the house texture. The top floor is more detailed than the bottom floor. This is usually a result of draw distance of Level or Detail (LOD) settings dictating the detail dropping off at a distance, like in the below shot.



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As you can see, the detail in this shot is dropping off the further away you get from the building and the texture.

My question: what is causing the lower LOD in the first shot? The top floor and bottom floor appear to be the exact same distance away from the camera, so why the two different levels of detail? Does it have something to do with the shadows being cast on it by the building itself?

Thanks.

This all means that is done on low power PC. Program try to optimze for the acceptable frame rate and good overal picture around.
However second shot maybe from early shots. Do not recognize this.

[jj_bravo]

Thought I'd share a couple of pics from the local airfield. Got so inspired by this game so I had to go support them as they work of donations.

Spitfire Cockpit
Spit props
Spit and B-25 WIP
Spit 2
Spit Pictures
P-51
P-51 Front
Jeep
BOB Map
Canadien 242 July 1940
WW2 Gas Mask

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

This is not a complaint, or a nitpick, just a question.

My question: what is causing the lower LOD in the first shot? The top floor and bottom floor appear to be the exact same distance away from the camera, so why the two different levels of detail? Does it have something to do with the shadows being cast on it by the building itself?

Thanks.

I think it's not so much a lower texture quality as an effect. Look closer at the building, the second floor is actually overhanging the first, so it seems the lower detail is more due to lower lighting/shadow than a texture issue.


Edit: Woops, Oleg posted while I was typing. It does seem though that the engine chose to use a lower texture to save frames on surfaces that are lower lighted or in shadow. Nice work if so.

[dduff442]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Colors of the vegetation are reading from the texture where they are... oops... I said some secret. So some time they originnal basic color maybe incorrect and looking vivid. Its what we are tuning.. relly ins't easy some time to get all looking right. But I hope we will get it finally... too many new technologies that were developed intially for this projet are going now at once.... Same was with Il-2 where about 20 new technics and technologies were presented for the first time in the world working right and without bugs....
Hope to get the same with this project... but its more harder to to greater overal complexity...

One problem is when it looks *real* it won't look *right*. 1940 was a hot summer and SE England doesn't look very English in late Aug - early Sep. The faded, brown-tinted colours are just right for leaves in September.

dduff

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by dduff442

The faded, brown-tinted colours are just right for leaves in September.
dduff

Sorry, where is such leaves?