Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[robtek]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

thankfully
......the snobbishness of closed pit flyers is sometimes breathtaking.

Well, the ability to fight well in a closed cockpit is hard earned!
One should be able to be proud of a achievement and not get called a snob for that!!!
Everybody has the same problems in a closed pit, really no reason to elevate those who go the easy way!

[Fafnir_6]

Originally Posted by robtek

Well, the ability to fight well in a closed cockpit is hard earned!
One should be able to be proud of a achievement and not get called a snob for that!!!
Everybody has the same problems in a closed pit, really no reason to elevate those who go the easy way!

Pride can easily turn into arrogance. I agree that your pride is justified but please don't put down those who are at an earlier stage of their development as a virtual fighter pilot. This coming from someone who also flies fullreal but wishes to avoid negativity.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Fafnir_6

Pride can easily turn into arrogance. I agree that your pride is justified but please don't put down those who are at an earlier stage of their development as a virtual fighter pilot. This coming from someone who also flies fullreal but wishes to avoid negativity.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

In fact, robtek is right.
Ever noticed the super doooper flyboys who score a shitload of kills on open cockpit/ext.view servers cannot reproduce these numbers on FR servers?

See?

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by robtek

Well, the ability to fight well in a closed cockpit is hard earned!
One should be able to be proud of a achievement and not get called a snob for that!!!
Everybody has the same problems in a closed pit, really no reason to elevate those who go the easy way!

if you feel it is something to be proud of then go for it, no need to trash other people's idea of fun.

however.

i challenge you to go into an open pit server (where everyone also has the same "problems") and do as well as you would in closed pit. there is nothing "easy" about this game, whatever settings you choose, when you are flying against competent opponents.

Originally Posted by Fafnir_6

Pride can easily turn into arrogance. I agree that your pride is justified but please don't put down those who are at an earlier stage of their development as a virtual fighter pilot. This coming from someone who also flies fullreal but wishes to avoid negativity.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

commendable attitude fafnir.

Originally Posted by swiss

In fact, robtek is right.
Ever noticed the super doooper flyboys who score a shitload of kills on open cockpit/ext.view servers cannot reproduce these numbers on FR servers?

See?

well... i get kills on FR (ha! full switch - it's not real) servers as well. not as many, because finding bandits is that much harder, but not a huge amount less. and nor do i die all that much less. the majority of pilots in FS servers don't manoeuvre as hard to evade you as they do in more relaxed settings, so once you've seen them, and as long as you can keep track of them... equally, without the cockpit framing and gunsight my gun accuracy drops like a dewinged 190. can't do the open pit view, even if i'm flying on an open pit server i have cockpit on.

i find it hilarious when people try and claim kudos for playing in a specific way, usually with little appreciation of the different flying styles required to succeed in both schools. really, try flying full switch style in an open pit server, you'll die. and vice versa. neither way is better than the other, but having spent hours acclimatising to full switch settings seems to breed this oft-seen snobbishness. weird.

the transparent instruments will add a level of complexity that i imagine will be enjoyed by a large portion of open pitters. at a wild guess the lack of complex engine management in some open pit servers is mostly down to the lack of instrumentation afforded in that view.

[robtek]

There is definitively no "putting down" the beginners, it is just generally speaking that choosing the easy way is the way to the dark side
If someone really is interested in the simulation part this person should switch to the cockpit view asap.
For fun -> everybody can choose.
my 2 cents
and now: BTT