Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sutts

I hope everyone noticed the beautiful backlit clouds in the wellington shot. Impressive stuff.

Just thought I'd post this.. Same pic but darker.



Again, I'm not trying to out-do anyone but I've a few of these that I already did. Just shows what you pointed out.

[philip.ed]

Looks quite nice Winny, could job. Would I be alone in saying the clouds could do with a bit more texture? maybe if the 'cauliflower' top-effect of the cumulus clouds could be a bit more defined?



Just an example, these clouds don't best match the ones shown in Oleg's but the representation is clear.

[winny]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Looks quite nice Winny, could job. Would I be alone in saying the clouds could do with a bit more texture? maybe if the 'cauliflower' top-effect of the cumulus clouds could be a bit more defined?



Just an example, these clouds don't best match the ones shown in Oleg's but the representation is clear.

You might have a point, the problem with clouds is they are just so, er.. different. I wouldn't like to say one way or another about the screenshot because I have no idea what the weather is like generally.

I just hope we get lots of variation from thin and wispy to thick and fluffy!

[Hood]

I live in the UK so I'm sick of clouds. Can we discuss something else please?

Hood

ps nice update, can't wait!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Hood

I live in the UK so I'm sick of clouds. Can we discuss something else please?

Hood

ps nice update, can't wait!

Certainly sir.
The weather looks nice today.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Hood

I live in the UK so I'm sick of clouds. Can we discuss something else please?

Hood

ps nice update, can't wait!

You welsh should be used to it by now

[Hood]

Originally Posted by Osprey

You welsh should be used to it by now

The only difference between those from Wales and those from Glaaaacester is that we wear wellies when chasing sheep.

And you can never ever get used to the clouds in the UK. To paraphrase what Clostermann said US pilots used to say - "If you get lost oer Europe just look for the biggest blackest cloud and that goddamn island will be right beneath it."

Thinking about it, if sheep aren't modelled correctly I'll have a hissy fit.

Hood

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Hood

And you can never ever get used to the clouds in the UK. To paraphrase what Clostermann said US pilots used to say - "If you get lost oer Europe just look for the biggest blackest cloud and that goddamn island will be right beneath it."Hood

Not wanting to necessarily resurrect the cloud debate, but here's a Catalina in typical British cloudscape, plus a few shots I took at 5.45pm tonight over another famous English river estuary.
Whoops! The cat is sideways, sorry.

[matsher]

Right, onto the real reason I wanted to post. This posting thing is pretty new to me so please excuse any babbling...

I have one development question / wish / request that has always been on my mind, and I have never come across anyone else asking about it... So here it is

Full cockpit vs Wonderview:- In IL-2 there is either Full cockpit or gunsight and sky. Nothing inbetween. It would be so good if there was a third option.

To Oleg- Will/can there be a player defined option to set the in-cockpit view at 65% (or so) opacity, to make it semi-transparent?
So pilots can still have more "sky" but also can have the feeling that they are still flying in a beautifully rendered fighter plane?

The cockpit opacity settings would be amazing to have... No longer will we have to choose between dynamic gameplay (Wonderview) and immersion (In cockpit)... We could have both.

Not too sure what the technical implications of this request is but I had to ask anyway.

Please give me feedback guys, I am interested to know your opinions on this request...



HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT...


Please give me some opinions and feedback.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by zapatista

since you seem to need some help with this


Dude,

I

don't

care

if you care or not




neither do i specifically seek tree out, i simply treat him in direct proportion to how he behaves at the time i see his "contribution" (which are turds mostly, all he seem to do is "thread crap")). if he makes "normal" post i mostly ignore him, largely because he usually doesnt really contribute anything interesting or topical anyway

if he continues to be so rude and offensive with his constant petulant little snide remarks which are deliberately directed at oleg and the WiP he is sharing here, then i will continue to treat tree-uk accordingly

in case you missed a post from the 1c moderator earlier in this thread



to which i will add a relevant recent observation posted by a user in another il2 forum where tree-uk sprouts the same constant crap



hear hear !!

it isnt a solution for half the people here to simply put tree on ignore and pretend what he is doing suddenly disappears from the universe. worse, by inaction and passive tollerance of it you are complicit to the problems he creates, which in the end will affect us all (and is affecting us already as you can well see).

having oleg's direct interaction with his fanbase (and him being responsive to it, having incorporated many of the previous good suggestions made), is a PRIVILEGE, and not a "right" to be petulantly abused by a few who are CONSTANTLY and DELIBERATELY disruptive and offensive to him (for years now in tree's case)

I agree with some of your points, although not 100%, and i can see where you're coming from. What makes the two of you similiar in a lot of ways is that Tree is coming off like a backseat-developer and you are coming off like a backseat-moderator. Your winding him up only serves to aggravate things further and get others sucked into your vendetta's debate (just like i'm doing right now) which, for the purposes of SoW, is largely irrelevant and useless to most of the people on this forum. Both you and him make some good points and some noise, like we all do, but when it's the two of you together you both only make noise and nothing else, that's all.

You can't banish him to Alpha Centauri and you can't force him to change his mind, put him on ignore if it vexes you so much and let the moderators deal with it if it needs to be dealt with. It's Oleg's forum after all and i doubt he needs "virtual bodyguards", you think he's so defenceless that he couldn't ask a moderator to ban a few people if he wanted to?


Back on topic, i think we finally managed to come to a bit of an agreement on some things after all this arguing (see, not everything is negative after all). Instead of saying "the terrain is gorgeous" or "the terrain is drawn by a child", we can now pinpoint the strong and weak points. It's very detailed topography-wise with a big draw distance, but not shown with high-res textures which makes the trees stand out too much due to the detail mismatch, plus the varying detail settings applied make it hard to judge it from different altitudes. Amazing it took so many people so long to reach such a simple conclusion, but like a folk saying goes in my country "where a lot of roosters crow, it takes longer for the sun to rise"

As for the clouds, you guys make the mistake of focusing only on cumulus ones. There's several different types with more subtypes and even more combinations among them and if you can "read" them, it can tell you things about the air flow in the area.

The only thing cumulus tells you is that there's rising air nearby, mostly thermals in which gliders can fly. And for the record, there are infact clouds with a rounded bottom if you know where to look for them