Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

matsher · #1 10-02-2010, 11:40 PM

Right, onto the real reason I wanted to post. This posting thing is pretty new to me so please excuse any babbling...

I have one development question / wish / request that has always been on my mind, and I have never come across anyone else asking about it... So here it is

Full cockpit vs Wonderview:- In IL-2 there is either Full cockpit or gunsight and sky. Nothing inbetween. It would be so good if there was a third option.

To Oleg- Will/can there be a player defined option to set the in-cockpit view at 65% (or so) opacity, to make it semi-transparent?
So pilots can still have more "sky" but also can have the feeling that they are still flying in a beautifully rendered fighter plane?

The cockpit opacity settings would be amazing to have... No longer will we have to choose between dynamic gameplay (Wonderview) and immersion (In cockpit)... We could have both.

Not too sure what the technical implications of this request is but I had to ask anyway.

Please give me feedback guys, I am interested to know your opinions on this request...

And Oleg, Please answer, I am burning to know...
I'll be satisfied with either a
1. Yes
2. No
or
3. Could happen in a future release.

(RESPONSE TO OLEG'S EARLIER POST) I also want to say that the view options in IL-2 are the best of any sim ever... I have played pretty much every single flight sim that has been made and none compares with IL-2's viewing systems... Coupled with the fact that outside camera views can be used (turned) with the track IR is immensely useful. Please dont change them, but add to them with your new secret viewing options

I also love the little details, like the pilots and gunners having 'weight' to them. I can see myself flying with the chase camera and throwing the bomber around the skies and seeing how the gunners react to inertia - Seeing if I can shunt the plane hard enough so they will fall out...

I am not sure how many more people will view my post... I think I may have missed the boat a bit cause most of the vast majority of the community have already been and gone, So I will repost this next week and hopefully get loads of responses, I am super interested to know what other may think of this idea.

Baron · #2 10-02-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by matsher

Right, onto the real reason I wanted to post. This posting thing is pretty new to me so please excuse any babbling...

I have one development question / wish / request that has always been on my mind, and I have never come across anyone else asking about it... So here it is

Full cockpit vs Wonderview:- In IL-2 there is either Full cockpit or gunsight and sky. Nothing inbetween. It would be so good if there was a third option.

To Oleg- Will/can there be a player defined option to set the in-cockpit view at 65% (or so) opacity, to make it semi-transparent?
So pilots can still have more "sky" but also can have the feeling that they are still flying in a beautifully rendered fighter plane?

The cockpit opacity settings would be amazing to have... No longer will we have to choose between dynamic gameplay (Wonderview) and immersion (In cockpit)... We could have both.

Not too sure what the technical implications of this request is but I had to ask anyway.

Please give me feedback guys, I am interested to know your opinions on this request...

And Oleg, Please answer, I am burning to know...
I'll be satisfied with either a
1. Yes
2. No
or
3. Could happen in a future release.

(RESPONSE TO OLEG'S EARLIER POST) I also want to say that the view options in IL-2 are the best of any sim ever... I have played pretty much every single flight sim that has been made and none compares with IL-2's viewing systems... Coupled with the fact that outside camera views can be used (turned) with the track IR is immensely useful. Please dont change them, but add to them with your new secret viewing options

I also love the little details, like the pilots and gunners having 'weight' to them. I can see myself flying with the chase camera and throwing the bomber around the skies and seeing how the gunners react to inertia - Seeing if I can shunt the plane hard enough so they will fall out...

I am not sure how many more people will view my post... I think I may have missed the boat a bit cause most of the vast majority of the community have already been and gone, So I will repost this next week and hopefully get loads of responses, I am super interested to know what other may think of this idea.

I think the idea with the semi transparent cockpit has been discussed in the past, cant remember of Oleg gave any awnsers about it though.

matsher · #3 10-02-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron

I think the idea with the semi transparent cockpit has been discussed in the past, cant remember of Oleg gave any awnsers about it though.

Thanks Baron, If you remember anything else about it, please tell me... Also what is your opinion on it...?

Splitter · #4 10-03-2010, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matsher

Thanks Baron, If you remember anything else about it, please tell me... Also what is your opinion on it...?

Just an opinion, but the semi-transparent cockpit would be good to play with. I wonder if that would tax the system, though, because it would have to render the sky/planes AND and cockpit in the same area. I have no idea if that;s the case, but it wouldn't surprise me.

BTW, the screen shots where people have played with the color saturation and such....spectacular even if a little dark. No one remembers it but I made a similar point in a post several weeks ago. I feel better about the theory I had back then after seeing these "doctored" screen shots.

Splitter

Baron · #5 10-03-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by matsher

Thanks Baron, If you remember anything else about it, please tell me... Also what is your opinion on it...?

Nothing wrong with the idea, options is good, all depending on the amount of work needed to implement it. Could be a good tool in the transison from WW to cockpit only flying. How much work it is, i have no idea.

Sturm_Williger · #6 10-03-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by matsher

Right, onto the real reason I wanted to post. This posting thing is pretty new to me so please excuse any babbling...

I have one development question / wish / request that has always been on my mind, and I have never come across anyone else asking about it... So here it is

Full cockpit vs Wonderview:- In IL-2 there is either Full cockpit or gunsight and sky. Nothing inbetween. It would be so good if there was a third option.

To Oleg- Will/can there be a player defined option to set the in-cockpit view at 65% (or so) opacity, to make it semi-transparent?
So pilots can still have more "sky" but also can have the feeling that they are still flying in a beautifully rendered fighter plane?

The cockpit opacity settings would be amazing to have... No longer will we have to choose between dynamic gameplay (Wonderview) and immersion (In cockpit)... We could have both.
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Matsher, some years ago, Oleg posted a development picture showing the "new Wonderwoman" view in which the "floating instruments" were semi-opaque. This wasn't a semi-transparent cockpit, but did show "see-through" instruments, so about half of what you're looking for. ( also, they were representations of the actual cockpit guages/dials, rather than the IL2 "cartoon" instruments )

I spent some time looking through old harddrives last night, but unfortunately I can't find it. Still, it was quite some time ago and anything might have changed.

Rodolphe · #7 10-03-2010, 01:47 PM

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March 21st 2008.

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Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Customizable indicators for no cockpit view. They are half transparent, resizable, and possible to put at any place of the screen. With the release of BoB there will be 3 types of standard indicator sets for no cockpit view – customizable indicators for German, British and Italian side.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...39&postcount=6

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