Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[matsher]

This week I am going to take out umemployment insurance. Cause I am almost certain that when this beautiful sim comes out I am gonna get my ass fired.

This sim almost makes that Fiat look pretty. Trust the Italians to turn a fighter plane into a cabriolet. Shhesh

Oleg - I am not certain what the issue is with the numbers on the plane - They look fantastic just the way they are now. And the weathering on the fuselage is simply brilliant.

Maybe you should just release the sim as arial photography software... Its that good.

[ElAurens]

Thank you Oleg for all the efforts in keeping us up to date with all these updates. Please know that there are lots of people watching these and discussing them in our squad forums and we are all very appreciative of all you do to keep us informed. Our resident former RAF pilot is chomping at the bit to fly a Hurri!

As to this edition's turn for the worse.

Some of you should be thankful I'm not a moderator here, and even more thankful that I was not your school master in the lower grades. Your parent's failure to inculcate tact, manners, and decorum would not have gotten past me.

BE VERY SURE.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Thank you Oleg for all the efforts in keeping us up to date with all these updates. Please know that there are lots of people watching these and discussing them in our squad forums and we are all very appreciative of all you do to keep us informed. Our resident former RAF pilot is chomping at the bit to fly a Hurri!

As to this edition's turn for the worse.

Some of you should be thankful I'm not a moderator here, and even more thankful that I was not your school master in the lower grades. Your parent's failure to inculcate tact, manners, and decorum would not have gotten past me.

BE VERY SURE.

+1

Thx Oleg for the updates! The vast majority of the community apreciates your work.

I think the moderartors should make a list of this guys (is allways the same short list of kids without manners), and just ban them every friday by default. This would make the interaction with the developers A LOT more positive and Oleg would have the dialog with the 99.99% of the community not with the 0.001 this people represent.

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

+1

Thx Oleg for the updates! The vast majority of the community apreciates your work.

I think the moderartors should make a list of this guys (is allways the same short list of kids without manners), and just ban them every friday by default. This would make the interaction with the developers A LOT more positive and Oleg would have the dialog with the 99.99% of the community not with the 0.001 this people represent.

So for you interaction between developer and potential customer means to constantly say:

Awesome ...
Appreciate ...
Excellent ...
Can't wait ...
Thx Oleg ...
Wonderfull ...
Everything is coming together nicely ...
...

I don't think Oleg can make any use of this sort of comments.
Has Oleg ever answered a post which contains only such phrases? No ...

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Hecke

So for you interaction between developer and potential customer means to constantly say:

Awesome ...
Appreciate ...
Excellent ...
Can't wait ...
Thx Oleg ...
Wonderfull ...
Everything is coming together nicely ...
...

I don't think Oleg can make any use of this sort of comments.
Has Oleg ever answered a post which contains only such phrases? No ...

+1

the easy solution is this: if someone posts their thoughts, don't argue with their view. simple.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by Hecke

So for you interaction between developer and potential customer means to constantly say:

Awesome ...
Appreciate ...
Excellent ...
Can't wait ...
Thx Oleg ...
Wonderfull ...
Everything is coming together nicely ...
...

I don't think Oleg can make any use of this sort of comments.
Has Oleg ever answered a post which contains only such phrases? No ...

I don't think Oleg needs feedback from 15 years old crybabies.

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

I don't think Oleg needs feedback from 15 years old crybabies.

But he's right. "Yah, great work!" Ok, how does Oleg and Luthier use that to make the game better? People who post that the font colour is wrong, the Pitot tube is wrong, or that the roads are not to scale are helpful (although not always diplomatic). As it stands now, Oleg has to sift through 30 pages of people giving him High-Fives, and probably gets tired of that and misses out on some actual constructive criticism or feedback.

You love the work, great! Add it to the end of a post that helps the game development process, points out something that needs to be done. Don't have a post that can be used to help the development of the game? This isn't the thread for it!

[philip.ed]

+1 to Speculum. Posts that say 'great' are fine, but if everyone posted that it'd be a bit...dull. Suffice to say, as I have said a number of times, the sim would be worse off because many errors wouldn't have been changed that the community noticed.
Just my 2P.

[Jaws2002]

It's not what you say, it's about how you say it. Some people are plain rude with their "feedback" and is always the same guys.
In all this "Updates" threads you see respectful observations to one aspect or another. For example observation about markings and some aircraft parts. Very respectfuly and with back up info. Soon you see the issues corected or adjusted.
This is what I consider "feedback", not the "this is crap", "that is crap", "I made it better in XX mod" years ago, and so on.
This is not feedback. It's noise. Rude noise. Nobody needs this kind of "feedback".
Many of you confuse the reason for this updates. They are not posted for you to criticize. Specially since you are always told "it's W.I.P." This updates are posted to keep us in the loop with the progress.
Do you think someone wants to get crap from 10 year olds every week for something he is giving for free?
Everything is WIP until you buy the game! Give them a break, they don't owe you nothing.

Originally Posted by Hecke

So for you interaction between developer and potential customer means to constantly say:

Awesome ...
Appreciate ...
Excellent ...
Can't wait ...
Thx Oleg ...
Wonderfull ...
Everything is coming together nicely ...
...

I don't think Oleg can make any use of this sort of comments.
Has Oleg ever answered a post which contains only such phrases? No ...

Is Oleg and Team encouraged by such comments? I think all artists are encouraged by such comments. No need to reply to them either. Just appreciate them like a warm glow of sunlight in the morning. Agreed that constructive criticism can be valuable to an artist. But there's a big difference between constructive criticism (which is usually backed up by relevant data) and ill-intended bickering usually by the same actors. So I make no apology for my attempts to compliment and encourage these artists. I personally lack the knowledge and expertise to offer the team any relevant data. But, like many in the silent majority, I can offer them a little encouragement from time to time. I'll keep doing this until Oleg tells me to shut up.