Defender of the Crown thread

[axelle]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

Ouch! Even with the extra levels I don't think level 5 item suppression could be done in this campaign; unless you get lucky and the item generates:

i actually managed to win the fight, but in the end, the single druid that i left to give me mana spring charges summoned a bear and i killed it without noticing that it was standing on top of the corpse of the last unit that i needed to rez..."head explodes*

the fight itself is not hard, fear + fire arrow the team of 3200 fairies. (ouch if you don't fear them and let it touch you), kill friendly gremlin tower(only 1) save/load to make sure you don't let the friendly gremlin tower summon units. kill 1900 dryads(two teams...) and thousands of thorns they summoned(thorns are bad because they will make your corpse disappear). kill 170 black unicorns and almost all fairies (leave a small a mount of fairies as it attacks without retal) kill almost all druids (leave a small a mount of fairies as it attacks with cloud and summons bears for manaspring) let all troops die (at a safe place so their corpse are in a corner or something) but one single stack of black unicorns, just slap on mana spring and resurrect when needed, use him to kill all the gremlin towers then start resurrecting the other units in one corner while the fairy and druid hit you in the other corner.

[axelle]

so ya, level 5 suppression is definitely possible as long as there are HUGE stacks of level 1 units that can be crowd control'd, and no big stack of level 5 units(like 27 archdevil).

because 3200 fairy is probably equivalent to 27 arch devil in leadership but in reality the former is much much easier to handle.

[axelle]

here you go!

have no idea why it says 600+ werewolves, i had less than 150. 250+ turns lol, the fight took over an hour of real life time!!!

but yes i waited until "night" time and man those werewolves do TONS of damage.

as you can see in the second image, after the fight i dismissed all those troops and bought black dragons! the final fight will be a piece of cake!

[axelle]

yay, i think i did pretty good as a mage without any extra-exp artifact/ancient scroll. it's funny how the "final fight" gives LESS exp than the suppression fight for perfect shoes. and also, the final fight lasted 10 rounds where as the suppression fight 250+ rounds...

question for lore: if you abuse troll then did you have to wait until "night time" which would be day 2...

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by axelle

yay, i think i did pretty good as a mage without any extra-exp artifact/ancient scroll. it's funny how the "final fight" gives LESS exp than the suppression fight for perfect shoes. and also, the final fight lasted 10 rounds where as the suppression fight 250+ rounds...

question for lore: if you abuse troll then did you have to wait until "night time" which would be day 2...

That is definitely a massive score for not even using a single +XP item, congratulations! And this is where the scoring fails, since you definitely went through a harder game than I did (I didn't take on any level 5 item suppression battles, which is A LOT harder than any of the built-in fights in this campaign). I definitely tip my hat off to you.

Night time is still part of day one, and it starts at 21:00 (9pm). I actually had to leave my game unpaused for a couple of minutes to get to nighttime. With such a small island, it was quite easy to clean up everything by 23:00.

I was initially confused by your score though; 747 seems odd since if you finished the game on day 1 and impossible difficulty at level 25 then your score should have been 754 (level 24 gets 744 and level 26 gets 763). But now I understand why you asked about the troll nighttime tactic; you used the nighttime trick on the werewolves and finished the game in day 2.

From KBTL and KBAP I developed the habit of always pausing the game when not in combat or not doing anything. But this is just a pausing the game "tactic"; no biggie, I'm sure you could have done it in 1 day as well if you wanted to.

[axelle]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

That is definitely a massive score for not even using a single +XP item, congratulations! And this is where the scoring fails, since you definitely went through a harder game than I did (I didn't take on any level 5 item suppression battles, which is A LOT harder than any of the built-in fights in this campaign). I definitely tip my hat off to you.

Night time is still part of day one, and it starts at 21:00 (9pm). I actually had to leave my game unpaused for a couple of minutes to get to nighttime. With such a small island, it was quite easy to clean up everything by 23:00.

I was initially confused by your score though; 747 seems odd since if you finished the game on day 1 and impossible difficulty at level 25 then your score should have been 754 (level 24 gets 744 and level 26 gets 763). But now I understand why you asked about the troll nighttime tactic; you used the nighttime trick on the werewolves and finished the game in day 2.

From KBTL and KBAP I developed the habit of always pausing the game when not in combat or not doing anything. But this is just a pausing the game "tactic"; no biggie, I'm sure you could have done it in 1 day as well if you wanted to.

ya i didn't know that night time starts at 21:00. i went to cook some food while un-paused and came back and it was a bit after midnight and i thought: perfect!

thanks for the compliment!

do you use the KBscanner? if so, what's "Troll" and "scroll ancient knowledge" called exactly? I am trying to save/scan a save where i can get both ancient knowledge scroll and troll. so if you don't mind, load up the good save that you had, the one with troll and ancient knowledge in one shop, and then look at the scanner report and see what exactly those are called please.

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by axelle

o you use the KBscanner? if so, what's "Troll" and "scroll ancient knowledge" called exactly? I am trying to save/scan a save where i can get both ancient knowledge scroll and troll. so if you don't mind, load up the good save that you had, the one with troll and ancient knowledge in one shop, and then look at the scanner report and see what exactly those are called please.

You already have it correct: "Troll" and "Scroll Ancient Knowledge", though for AK I just ctrl-F for "knowl".

You might as well make sure that you have a lot of suppressable items. In my case, while I had 4 AK scrolls (and one dug up AK) available, I only had 6 suppression battles available; not that I'm complaining much, mind you.

Good luck again! If you do make another DotC run, join me afterwards at CotA.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by axelle

here you go!

have no idea why it says 600+ werewolves, i had less than 150. 250+ turns lol, the fight took over an hour of real life time!!!

but yes i waited until "night" time and man those werewolves do TONS of damage.

as you can see in the second image, after the fight i dismissed all those troops and bought black dragons! the final fight will be a piece of cake!

You cast Phantom on the werewolves a bunch? Maybe dupe with archmage? The post battle thing will show damage done by summons, and the total number of them for the fight.

[axelle]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

You cast Phantom on the werewolves a bunch? Maybe dupe with archmage? The post battle thing will show damage done by summons, and the total number of them for the fight.

nope didn't use phantom.

i also had this problem with vampires, so i am thinking it must be either the "shift/transform" ability (i am pretty sure that it's this one that messes the computer report up), or the bloodsucking ability (werewolves have a 30% chance of sucking a percentage of casualties to regenerate during night time, but i only had like 5 regenerated so i don't think it's this one)