Defender of the Crown thread

[axelle]

i am going to try to upgrade "perfect shoe", it's my 11th and last suppression battle before the final fight.

all-elf-team with max morale!

you will see that my black unicorns are quite OP if you look at the second picture.

btw lore, i wanted to ask, what items did you suppress?

[Shield]

Just finished this on "hard" with a mage - Score was 539. That last battle was pretty rough; my character was only a level 14. Stupid demon portals!

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by axelle

btw lore, i wanted to ask, what items did you suppress?

steel band --> steel belt
fine boots --> golden boots
ballroom dress --> dress of the princess
magician's cowl --> magician's cloak
magician's cloak --> magician's cape
snake ring --> snake ring of wisdom

The red gremlin towers couldn't throw magical attacks at the black dragons (unless it was a counterattack, wherein they did roughly 12-18 damage to the BDs while BDs do 250+ damage to them), so they either buffed their troops or cast Lightning on my Trolls (which not only were regenerating, but also had Peacefulness cast on them).

[axelle]

from the looks of it, items that require more than one upgrade are the best, not only you get more fights, but also the final upgrade(if doable) usually yields way more experience.

it also has to do with item-level, i remember trying to upgrade something and a stack of 27 arch devils jumped over and i was like "whaaaaaat?"

and the upgrading fight can be really really hard, the battle I am still trying to beat, the gremlin towers themselves have 14000 health...

now, who has the patience to save/scan for a new save, where

1, troll/resurrection scroll is available.

2, ancient knowledge scroll is available (repeatedly loading/digging for an ancient knowledge scroll is simply not practical).

3, 15+ish suppression fights. you need the baton(3)/2 weapons(4)/bronze ring(2)/and around 5 one-upgrade items.

4, extra experience% items like hand of necropolis.

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by axelle

and the upgrading fight can be really really hard, the battle I am still trying to beat, the gremlin towers themselves have 14000 health...

Ouch! Even with the extra levels I don't think level 5 item suppression could be done in this campaign; unless you get lucky and the item generates:

1) all evil gremlin towers
2) all enemies are slow melee
3) black dragons are available for you to actually win such a fight

As for the save game file, I have trolls, resurrection, AKx4, hand of necropolis, and 6 item suppression battles; but even if I gave it to you the best that could be done is to match 763.

This is why I hate the concept of AK scrolls. In KBTL there was technically a max possible score, but with the introduction of AKs in KBAP there is technically no max; it just depends on how lucky you are. And this is the same reason I take no offense in using the KBScanner; if I am to play the campaign only once and I am going for as high a score as I could, then I would like to make sure that I remove most of the luck factor involved in acquiring +XP items, so that my planning and efforts would yield maximum results.

[axelle]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

Ouch! Even with the extra levels I don't think level 5 item suppression could be done in this campaign; unless you get lucky and the item generates:

i actually managed to win the fight, but in the end, the single druid that i left to give me mana spring charges summoned a bear and i killed it without noticing that it was standing on top of the corpse of the last unit that i needed to rez..."head explodes*

the fight itself is not hard, fear + fire arrow the team of 3200 fairies. (ouch if you don't fear them and let it touch you), kill friendly gremlin tower(only 1) save/load to make sure you don't let the friendly gremlin tower summon units. kill 1900 dryads(two teams...) and thousands of thorns they summoned(thorns are bad because they will make your corpse disappear). kill 170 black unicorns and almost all fairies (leave a small a mount of fairies as it attacks without retal) kill almost all druids (leave a small a mount of fairies as it attacks with cloud and summons bears for manaspring) let all troops die (at a safe place so their corpse are in a corner or something) but one single stack of black unicorns, just slap on mana spring and resurrect when needed, use him to kill all the gremlin towers then start resurrecting the other units in one corner while the fairy and druid hit you in the other corner.

[axelle]

so ya, level 5 suppression is definitely possible as long as there are HUGE stacks of level 1 units that can be crowd control'd, and no big stack of level 5 units(like 27 archdevil).

because 3200 fairy is probably equivalent to 27 arch devil in leadership but in reality the former is much much easier to handle.

[axelle]

here you go!

have no idea why it says 600+ werewolves, i had less than 150. 250+ turns lol, the fight took over an hour of real life time!!!

but yes i waited until "night" time and man those werewolves do TONS of damage.

as you can see in the second image, after the fight i dismissed all those troops and bought black dragons! the final fight will be a piece of cake!