Who's waiting to buy a new PC for SoW?

OK guys.. had to register just to correct all the foolishness going on

I might also get a bit more RAM, but always multipliers of 3 to take advantage of the motherboard's/i7 tripple channel feature (so i wouldn't go from 3 to 4GB of RAM but from 3 to 6GB).

wrong, you have an intel motherboard for the last 5 years intel motherboards have supported scaling in ram, yes you can run 4 sticks of 1 gig DDR3 and still have it in triple channel, or 5 sticks even, you will see a reduction in performance... (of .01%) in other words the loss in performance is so minuscule its not even measurable, if you want 4 gigs just buy another stick and plop it in, i see this posted ALLLLL the time its highly annoying it s like the greatest urban legend of RAM.. however if you have an AMD board then you must do it the way you said

[MD_Titus]

that techpowerup guy lasted long then.

personally i'm going to properly start saving now, and give it about 6months+ after release before upgrading. try and hold out as long as i can to get more grunt for my £££, because i won't be upgrading for a few years after that. tend to go for one ridiculous splurge and leave it as long as possible. probably adds up to as much as doing a few hundred quid upgrade every 6-12 months.

as long as i can play on low settings with this machine. it eats up il2, can play RoF with reasonably high settings at 1600x1200... so i should be ok for a bit. i hope. maybe.

[lbuchele]

I was playing ROF yesterday,after 6 months.I started the game,at 1920x1200,settings in high mostly,post processing off and for my surprise had very low fps in combat scenes and over cities.That's the first time this happens since I build my current rig.(a E8400@3,60 GHz ; GTX 460;4Gb RAM;asus P5Q.
Imediatly think about SOW and if it could take advantage of 6cores like ROF can do.
(my problem seems to be my only two cores and low vídeo RAM)

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by lbuchele

I was playing ROF yesterday,after 6 months.I started the game,at 1920x1200,settings in high mostly,post processing off and for my surprise had very low fps in combat scenes and over cities.That's the first time this happens since I build my current rig.(a E8400@3,60 GHz ; GTX 460;4Gb RAM;asus P5Q.
Imediatly think about SOW and if it could take advantage of 6cores like ROF can do.
(my problem seems to be my only two cores and low vídeo RAM)

Are you using Win 7 by any chance? I recall reading something on the ROF site about Win 7 having issues with dual core processors in ROF.

At least the ROF people were blaming Microsoft - sounded to me like the problem may (?) have something to do with their coding too!?

Anyway, just a thought.

edit: see http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewto...p?f=276&t=6471

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by lbuchele

I was playing ROF yesterday,after 6 months.I started the game,at 1920x1200,settings in high mostly,post processing off and for my surprise had very low fps in combat scenes and over cities.That's the first time this happens since I build my current rig.(a E8400@3,60 GHz ; GTX 460;4Gb RAM;asus P5Q.
Imediatly think about SOW and if it could take advantage of 6cores like ROF can do.
(my problem seems to be my only two cores and low vídeo RAM)

Hi lbuchele,

How much video memory have you got in your GTX460?

I have a similar computer (E8500@3.6GHz) but with a 9800GTX card and had planned to pick up a GTX460 as a video upgrade.

I've been trying to find a Q9550 somewhere as a stop-gap upgrade to make ROF play smoothly on my PC. (Very hard to find one at a reasonable price!)


Cheers!

only matters the power supply and the video card. off course, you cannot buy a c2d. you need 4 cores.

powersupply is the most important to power your system and make sure your comp wont fry, however has next to 0 affect on the actual performance of your rig unless your doing extreme OC or your under the volt limit on the rail... for this reason i always recommend seasonic or corsair PSU, they use single rail for more volts and are overspeced on watts, if your using a single video card pick up a 600 or 650 corsair powesupply you cant go wrong, unless you want two video cards

relieve me

no thanks

a 5850 will be so poor for Storm Of War ! (shit, What I am going to do now?!!!)

this is largely up to your resolution, a 5850 at ~1020 x 720 i guarantee you will run SOW max it will run anything max with a good CPU ect, pay attention to your screen res... ie multiply the two numbers if you have a 1600 x 1200 screen tats 1.92 million pixels, a 5850 would likely run sow very well at that resolution but likely wouldnt max it out.. however if you run a 2560 x 1600 screen now your pushing 4+ million pixels now you'll want more power, generally if your running 4 million pixels or over youll want a high end nvidia 480 / or a nw ati 6870 coming out less than two months.. if your under 2 million pixels the current ati cards should do fine or a nvidia 460 should also do beautifully, also the processor is very important in this case, i would recommend quad core definitely for SOW, if you want more CPU power dont buy a high end CPU you'll get more value for the money OC.. if you can't OC.. buy a pre-OC system.. easy even with the premium you'll pay to have a system built if its OC youll more than make that money back.. not sure if ibuypower does OCs, but lots of custom built companies will oc for you and even guarantee the OC and replace anything if it fry's check the warranty before purchase!!..(http://www.digitalstormonline.com/ they will OC a prebuilt for you and its absolutely guaranteed, if it blows they;; replace.. however its highly unlikely occurrence with current tech, and adequate cooling failed OCs are very rare.. how rare.. well with air cooling and a corsair PSU, and good motherboard less than 1% and that 1%)) however if you can I highly highly highly recommend building your own computer and OC, get a low end I7 920 or possibly something in the 800 line, with a decent motherboard its sooooo easy to OC, you'll get 3.4ghz easy just with stock cooler more than that custom air cooler also easy to use, the reason id recommend the I7 for first time OC is because its soooo fool proof, its basically impossible to blow anything up as long as your PSU and motherboard is decent, and its a really easy OC, a few clicks in BIOS and done, never touch it again, and yes you will get much higher frames with a OC I7 vs a stock.. probably in the neighborhood of 15-25 % higher FPS and also GHz does not = GHz.. when it comes to performance on different brand chips in other words and I7 at 3 ghz.. is about 1.5x faster than last gen intel or current gen amd.. so you can do math 6 core amd is about same speed as I7 4 core GHZ for GHZ so yes 6 core low end amd is very good choice even cheaper than I7 and aaaaalmost as fast if you OC, if your not OC skip it (6 core amd)

as for OC the GPU also must do lol, so easy to do also, just get into CCC in ati cards.. and click the button to release slide and add 100mhz to the GPU speed.. done) that will help alot so easy to do, and 5850 will OC like a beast recommended highly amd cards run nice and cool, if u decide to OC the GPU make sure it either A exhausts out the case.. or B you have at least 2 large or three small fans blowing inside the case

MOBO: ASUS Crosshair III Formula,
RAM: 8GB (2 x 4GB) G Skill DDR3 1333,
CPU: AMD 965 Phenom II - 3.4GHz Quad-Core,
Cooling: ZALMAN 9300AT (lapped w/fan removed),
HD: WD Black Edition, 500 GB for the OS and other programs plus 1TB for games,
GPU: EVGA GTX 470,
CD/DVD: LG with LightScribe,
Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro,
PSU: CORSAIR HX Series 850W,
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 590 with (3) 140mm fans and (1) 120mm fan,
OS: Windows 7, 64-bit,

very nice build dont know monitor size but should do very well

Wait for Sandy Bridge.

lets see how to put this..?? WRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

why?
#1 your main bottleneck will be GPU if u wait for something should be the GPU
#2 sandybridge can't OC them their locked chips no OC for you looser, unless you pay extra 300 dollars.. heh yeah right,
#3 SOW will be out before sandybridge SOW CAN NOT WAIT

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by techpowerup

lets see how to put this..?? WRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

why?
#1 your main bottleneck will be GPU if u wait for something should be the GPU
#2 sandybridge can't OC them their locked chips no OC for you looser, unless you pay extra 300 dollars.. heh yeah right,
#3 SOW will be out before sandybridge SOW CAN NOT WAIT

Aren't you a well mannered and polite individual. But anyway:

A bunch of sim games I've seen (a bit older in architechture though) have been pretty CPU intensive. DCS, FSX, IL2 etc as far as I know have their FPS set more by the CPU than GPU at the end of the day.

So can someone confirm it might be different for SOW based on the news we've received so far or do I just have to wait and see. I wouldn't rush out to buy any GPU's until there is some more light on this.

I saw sandy bridge OC'd to 4,9GHz on air. If that costs 300$ extra I don't really care and I'd be interested to see some sources behind that claim. If it's CPU that creates the bottlenecks then CPU is on my shopping cart and I don't have the time or energy to do any liquid coolings to reach 4,5GHz+ and I want to get the smoothest experience possible with SOW.

Well, thanks for the correction

So, how does it work? If i use 4x1Gb sticks, the 3 of them work in tripple channel and the last one works "on its own"? Or does it somehow "divide" the performance gains from the tripple channel sticks and have all four of them running at an in-between speed?

no thier will be no in between speed, each stick will be running at full DDR3 speeds, however if you had two sticks only you would loose some performance.. you just need 3+ sticks and your good to go the motherboard uses the data from the 3 and the 1 and all 4 sticks will run in triple Chanel just sending the info all to the same controller and motherboard sorts the data.. like i said the motherboard now must do just a little more work to process the data, so maybe it sucks up an other watt and runs a 1C hotter,but no no loss in performance (only on intel motherboards) so yup all 4 gigs running at triple channel.. enjoy!