Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Auger73

The principles in operation of a pistone is a more complex than a turbine, whether a turbofan or turboprop. In a turbine the only thing a pilot controls is how much fuel to dump in the flame cans. In a piston engine, you have throttle, mixture, carb heat, and radiator to control.

Over the years, flying has become safer. There are more instruments on a modern aircraft, but they allow you to do things that were impossible in earlier eras (such as 0/0 landings). You may have to learn more instruments, but in the end, it becomes easier to accomplish the same tasks in a modern aircraft. Compare navigating with a hand-cranked hoop ADF vs. GPS.

I don't disagree with this, it's just that i've been a propeller-head simmer for most of my vitrual flying carreer, so piston engines come naturally to me. The first time i tried a turboprop on a friend's FSX i constantly felt like there was something important that needed to be done and i was forgetting it

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I don't disagree with this, it's just that i've been a propeller-head simmer for most of my vitrual flying carreer, so piston engines come naturally to me. The first time i tried a turboprop on a friend's FSX i constantly felt like there was something important that needed to be done and i was forgetting it

Truth. And turboprops feel like cheating. Too much power, hard to damage, very reliable.

Land long? No problem, just reverse the thrust and you will be going backwards in seconds. Rocks on that cloud you just flew into? No problem, just throw on some more throttle and climb over those rocks like a helicopter.

I'm being silly of course because in real life I would rather have a turboprop in most bad situations. That's assuming I could afford the fuel costs.

Splitter

[ElAurens]

The turboprop would be less expensive to operate than a Merlin, P&W, Allison, DB, etc...

[Azimech]

... but have no charm at all. Turbojets, turboprops and turbofans are like flying vacuumcleaners to me. Pulsejets, ramjets and scramjets are even worse.

[ElAurens]

I agree with you totally, but none the less there is a reason why modern piston engined aircraft are now relegated to the bottom of the pecking order.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Azimech

... but have no charm at all. Turbojets, turboprops and turbofans are like flying vacuumcleaners to me. Pulsejets, ramjets and scramjets are even worse.

This short youtube clip explains it all (embedding disabled, go to link) ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkcX0KGIBwk

Anybody can start a turbine, you just need to move a switch from "OFF" to "START," and then remember to move it back to "ON" after a while.

My PC is harder to start.

Cranking a round engine requires skill, finesse and style. On some planes, the pilots are not even allowed to do it.

Turbines start by whining for a while, then give a small lady-like poot then whine louder.

Round engines give a satisfying rattle-rattle, click-click BANG, more rattles, another BANG, a big macho fart or two, more clicks, a lot of smoke and finally a serious low pitched roar.

We like that. It's a guy thing.

When you start a round engine, your mind is engaged and you can concentrate on the flight ahead.

Starting a turbine is like flicking on a ceiling fan: Useful, but hardly exciting.

Turbines don't break often enough, leading to aircrew boredom, complacency and inattention.

A round engine at speed looks and sounds like it's going to blow at any minute. This helps concentrate the mind.

Turbines don't have enough control levers to keep a pilot's attention. There's nothing to fiddle with during the flight.

Turbines smell like a Boy Scout camp full of Coleman lanterns. Round engines smell like God intended flying machines to smell.

[Romanator21]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5LBUVS1T8

[Flanker35M]

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Seems that that Dora has not been started for a while. And did they make the checks before start up, rotate the prop a bit etc.Maybe should have tried using external power But when started some damn nice sounds omn that Jumo

[Auger73]

Although a turbine in IL-2 is a very different animal from a modern turbine. I suspect it is handled in a pretty realistic manner that increasing the throttle too rapidly can cause an engine fire, and the need for airspeed to provide sufficient cooling.

Taxiing, taking off, and trying to get to a decent altitude at a sufficient airspeed without overheating the engines can be a bit of a challenge. If you are too low and slow, with hot engines, you are really backed into a corner. In multiplayer maps, flying an Ar-234 is almost more about the challenge of operating the engines effectively than dealing with your opponents.

[Flanker35M]

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And what we lack in IL-2 in the Me262 is the control of the "onion" in the exhaust as the compressor intake was not adjustable. The "onion" was not an automatic thingy and that partially contributed to the delicate nature of the 262...when pilots achieved a good setting they rarely changed it. In today's jets we have the ECA doing that job. One thing was quite novel for that time though and is used even today. The turbine wings run hot and Germans had a bit of problems with metallurgy during war so they made the turbine wings air cooled thus giving some extra margin.