Film of the competitors! (Boo Hiss!)

[Skoshi Tiger]

I'm probably be wrong, but my understanding was that A10 would be released as a seperate sim. Both sims would work together in multiplayer a bit like Silent Hunter and Destroyer Commander (or Comanche and Werewolf if you want to go back further). They were two seperate titles that could work together in multiplayer.

This is different to the IL-2 series that the newer version merged in with the older ones into one sim.

Like I said I might be completely wrong but that was the impression I got.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Sorry, I don't understand. How is the fact that now both titles use the same DX9 an indicator that they are not compatible?


I also don't think that leaving DX11 out is a bad decision. As posted in another thread, the main advantage of using DX11 is to speed up rendering. But rendering of the world graphics is much less a priority for DCS as the phyiscs behind the FM, the DM and the avionics. So buying a top-notch DX11 card for DCS was a pretty superficial excuse.

@proton45:
It was posted a long time ago, that it's planned to upgrade older modules with the enhancements published in newer versions 1.) to maintain compatibility between the modules and 2.) because the system is designed modular, just like Oleg's SoW-engine.

So, unless something unforeseen happens, I bet there will be an update for BlackShark.

[Xilon_x]

Silent Hunter and would be great to combine IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and arma2 3 simulations in a simulation all connected with an excellent interface.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

I'm probably be wrong, but my understanding was that A10 would be released as a seperate sim. Both sims would work together in multiplayer a bit like Silent Hunter and Destroyer Commander (or Comanche and Werewolf if you want to go back further). They were two seperate titles that could work together in multiplayer.

This is different to the IL-2 series that the newer version merged in with the older ones into one sim.

Like I said I might be completely wrong but that was the impression I got.

Cheers!

I think that DCS is the title and that A-10 is purley an add-on. They have a standard 'base' version of the software (I'm guessing that this is the engine part), when A-10 is released the base version will be upgraded across all versions. So you won't be able to play the A-10 without upgrading your current version to the new 'base' version.

I think SoW may go down this route..?

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

I'm probably be wrong, but my understanding was that A10 would be released as a seperate sim. Both sims would work together in multiplayer a bit like Silent Hunter and Destroyer Commander (or Comanche and Werewolf if you want to go back further). They were two seperate titles that could work together in multiplayer.

This is different to the IL-2 series that the newer version merged in with the older ones into one sim.

Like I said I might be completely wrong but that was the impression I got.

Cheers!

No, if you meant it this way, you're right. (though I still don't get the idea how you concluded that from what you wrote before)

BlackShark and Warthog are two separate modules of the same series, but they are not separate titles or series, just to make that perfectly clear. It's aim is to combine all modules of the series and upgrade earlier modules with patches to bring them up to latest release standards. Well, at least that's the plan.

The decision to have modules rather than upgrades is a question of the business-model and of course workload and detail.

1.
- Modern aircraft have a lot of avionic systems that need to be modeled additional to mechanical and DM. These things are also not only limited to the aircraft itself, but also in terms of multiplayer-features, as you have very high-tech systems interacting with each other. This limits the number of aircraft and new features included in each release - for DCS that's one aircraft a time.
- When adding a WW2 aircraft, the number of different avionics is rather limited, the way the function are even less. The implementation is also rather limited to the plane itself, as it can simply be added into the game without any complex dependencies. This way, if you have the basic engine, it's comparably easy to add new planes. As such, more planes can be included into an addon. Especially, if they are "just" modifications of the same plane.

2.
- Oleg's business-model was criticized a lot for the need to buy the modules. If you wanted to play at later states, you not only had to download a large number of free updates, but you also had to buy addons or bundles. If you didn't you were stuck with the old version and unable to play with other people with more upgrades.
- ED releases single aircraft modules, which work together with previous and later releases. As such, you can choose the aircraft you want to fly, buy the addon(s) you want and the only downside is, that you are limited in your choice of aircraft.

IMHO each has it's pros and cons.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Cool, some more video of SOW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wwIzRlohpE

I like the articulation of the gun mount. It gives a new insight into the difficulties of actually using one of these guns.



Cheers

[Feuerfalke]

ED now offers Pre-Purchase for A-10C.

If you buy the full digital download version, you will get instant access to an Open Beta!

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/

Details:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=58300

[The Kraken]

Great news and a good move from ED.

Still hope Oleg won't do the same. This forum just wouldn't be the same without the Friday updates and mostly unrelated follow-up discussions...

[zakkandrachoff]

i forget it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7ZiG5rsOw8

by the way, this is the tape.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

i forget it

This ones better than the promo for CFS!

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

by the way, this is the tape.

LOL!

Cheers!

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

ED now offers Pre-Purchase for A-10C.

If you buy the full digital download version, you will get instant access to an Open Beta!

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/

Details:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=58300

Thankyou very much! I will head over that way and take a look!

cheers!

*Edit* Couldn't help myself - downloading the Beta now though it looks like it will take some time!

Thanks again!