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Old 09-10-2010, 04:10 PM
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The usual pathetic “we keep the world clean and free” speech from one of our brothers on the other side. Sorry but we don’t need it and we don’t want it and we most of all don’t buy it anymore!
Viking
How so?

Our president will not intervene.
Our military is spread too thin already.
We've told the Taliban and Al Qeada how long they have to hang on until we are gone from Afghanistan.
Our president just gave a victory speech for Iraq without using the word "victory".
We can't even secure our own borders.
We are about $13 Trillion USD in debt which is several degrees beyond broke.

We are one step behind Britain (heck, we just mimicked their healthcare system...). Ya'll are on your own anyway, just the way you wanted it. If something big happens we'll try to sit it out.

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Old 09-11-2010, 12:29 AM
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The usual pathetic “we keep the world clean and free” speech from one of our brothers on the other side. Sorry but we don’t need it and we don’t want it and we most of all don’t buy it anymore!
Viking
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. I wish I could believe you don't need to protect yourselves, but I don't. And if your country as a whole doesn't believe it, and you do have something sinister brought upon you, know that this brother on the other side of the pond will come to your aid regardless.

Peace, through eternal vigilence.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:44 PM
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I'm English and proud of past histories, (well, some of them) but the word 'Great' in 'Great Britain' should be replaced with the word 'Bland'.
Last time I checked, the landmass that contains England, Wales and Scotland was still the largest island in the British Isles, so its geographically descriptive name 'Great Britain' still stands
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Old 09-10-2010, 11:07 PM
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Last time I checked, the landmass that contains England, Wales and Scotland was still the largest island in the British Isles, so its geographically descriptive name 'Great Britain' still stands
Yes yes I know, however it's called a play on words. If you're British you should understand this.
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:16 AM
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What would we do if Argentina decided it wanted the Falklands after all?

Obama already stated publicly he thinks Argentina deserves the Falklands......
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:29 AM
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Obama already stated publicly he thinks Argentina deserves the Falklands......
He's entitled to his opinion, but it's none of his fizzing business.
The Falklands remain British sovereign territory.
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Old 09-11-2010, 03:10 AM
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Obama already stated publicly he thinks Argentina deserves the Falklands......
Has he? Frankly, I'd be surprised if he gave an opinion one war or another.

Or is this something invented by the 'Obama is a Moslem' crowd?

And can anyone explain how a thread about Vulcans ended up being hijacked yet again by the NeoCon 'we can save the world from tyranny' bunch? Are they so insecure that they can't look at an internet forum without spouting their revisionist gloop? Tiresome...
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:13 AM
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“We are aware not only of the current situation but also of the history, but our position remains one of neutrality,” a State Department spokesman told The Times. “The US recognizes de facto UK administration of the islands but takes no position on the sovereignty claims of either party.”

Hilary Clinton, our secretary of state, has said Argentina and Britain should sit down and negotiate the fate of the Falklands. And the Obama administration refused to back Britain at the UN regarding the Falklands. An assistant Secretary of State prefers to call the islands the "Malvinas".

So...ya'll might just lose the islands through a UN resolution. No fighting required unless you buck the UN.

This stance by the administration is probably an attempt to curry favor with Central and South American countries. Throwing an ally with whom we are supposed to have a 'special relationship" under the bus? Sure, but we want the world to like us now.

You can't count on the US unless things change over here. Our enemies know this and our allies are figuring it out.

Dutch: I know it's not everyone. There are still realistic people scattered throughout the world lol. But then again, there are a bunch of people in the world who like seeing the US get a black eye. Many quietly snickered after 9/11 and believe that this nation brought those attacks on itself. Heck, there is even a group of people here that believe the attacks were perpetrated by the US government (cause Bush was so evil).

While we as a nation are sometimes misguided, we are not an evil people....so those attitudes are frustrating. Really, all we hear about is how unpopular the US is around the world.

BTW, I have no doubt about the "fight" that lays beneath the British facades. That same resilience that brought you all through the Battle of Britain is still there, just lying dormant .

Splitter

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