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Old 09-08-2010, 06:31 AM
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So...was Churchill a war criminal then?
Churchill was under pressure from the Americans to shift the bombing effort away from cities and towards oil supplies and transport to assist the assault on Germany.

Churchill was also under pressure from Stalin to increase the area bombing of cities, presumably as a scorched earth policy meant a more pliable destroyed Germany post war for Stalin to control.

In the end Churchill went with Stalin wishes, not the Americans, though he later seems to have had second thoughts about appeasing Stalin.

According to Speer, postwar, if Churchill had listened to the Americans and prioritized oil supplies as a target the war may have finished 6 months early.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:38 PM
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Churchill was under pressure from the Americans to shift the bombing effort away from cities and towards oil supplies and transport to assist the assault on Germany.

Churchill was also under pressure from Stalin to increase the area bombing of cities, presumably as a scorched earth policy meant a more pliable destroyed Germany post war for Stalin to control.

In the end Churchill went with Stalin wishes, not the Americans, though he later seems to have had second thoughts about appeasing Stalin.

According to Speer, postwar, if Churchill had listened to the Americans and prioritized oil supplies as a target the war may have finished 6 months early.
First, I hope no one took my post which you quoted as me thinking Churchill was a war criminal. I was asking the question to someone who had made a certain assertion.

Second, I didn't realize the Stalin connection, but it fits. I do know (my understanding at least) that the Germans bombed a British city first, apparently by mistake. The Brits of course did not know this so they bombed Berlin. In reply, Hitler vowed to wipe English cities off the map starting with London.

That Stalin would want to continue to bomb cities is not surprising. He had big post-war plans for Europe. Obviously.

This all leaves me thinking of where the turning point in the war in Europe might have been. Every contest has moments where momentum turns, sometimes several.

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Old 09-08-2010, 07:55 PM
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I'm reading through Barbarossa, by Alan Clark again. When I get to the right bit, I'll tell you when the turning point was. Somewhere near Stalingrad I should think.
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Loock this strange photo are U.F.O.?
are aliens?
are secret tecnology?
are laser?






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Old 08-22-2011, 01:01 PM
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Nothing like detailed pictures to show a point. Too bad there aren't any....
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:31 PM
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Loock this strange photo are U.F.O.?
are aliens?
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Those are ice cristals in the air which reflect light. I've read it somewehere. So it's not a super weapon
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Old 08-22-2011, 04:40 PM
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ice cristal? mmmmmmmmmmm the hight altidude the low and cold temperature formation ball of ice and refflect the light is possible response.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:14 AM
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I think the inclusion of some experimental aircraft should open the door to all that people care to model. It's just a bit of fun after all...
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