The Untold Battle of Britain

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

See, your problem was you didn't have Yaks. If you guys would have had Yaks, the Battle of Britain would have been ten times more costly for the Germans, than for the British, Poles, Yugos, etc. But no, you have to have your Spitfires and Hurricanes.

What about the 2,952 hurricanes Uncle Joe took under lease lend???
And anyway at the time of the Battle of Britain, Uncle Joe was entering into non-aggression pacts with Adolf!!

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Gilly

What about the 2,952 hurricanes Uncle Joe took under lease lend???
And anyway at the time of the Battle of Britain, Uncle Joe was entering into non-aggression pacts with Adolf!!

Pfft, those old crates. Nothing more than target practice, ship cover, and quick training barges. (Contrary to popular belief, that's what we had to really use them for! ) You should have had Yaks, would have made it all much more reliable an easy. You could have hammered the last nail into one of those 109 Coffins. (Just don't buy the LaGGs, or you'll end up being in the coffin. )

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Pfft, those old crates. Nothing more than target practice, ship cover, and quick training barges. (Contrary to popular belief, that's what we had to really use them for! ) You should have had Yaks, would have made it all much more reliable an easy. You could have hammered the last nail into one of those 109 Coffins. (Just don't buy the LaGGs, or you'll end up being in the coffin. )

'what we had to use them for'
Thought you were American?
Thankfully we didn't have yaks. We had the best if British and did kick adolf in the bollocks when no one else was. That is historical fact and something I'm immensely proud of as an Englishman. As it's currently the 70th anniversary of the Battle at this very moment I would tread very carefully with your wit.

[Davedog74]

if the raf had yaks,they would of lost,most of the action toook place above 10,000 ft,more like 20,000 feet.
great stuff as ever,bobbysocks

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Davedog74

if the raf had yaks,they would of lost,most of the action toook place above 10,000 ft,more like 20,000 feet.
great stuff as ever,bobbysocks

Then you could use some La's for top cover?

[FOZ_1983]

Ah Soviet...

Quick to late the good old workhorse of the RAF during the summer of 1940, but you seem to forget that the crate your slating just happened to down more Luftwaffe planes than all other defences combined during the Battle of Britain.

You don't like it i know, and you enjoy disregarding it, but the truth of the matter is.... it was a very adequate fighter in 1940 and did its job.... extremely well it stopped us all from speaking German.

If you want to go up in a very forgiving, stable gun platform that could take a fair bit of battle damage and a fighter than can hold its own against the best the Lufwaffe could throw at you... then you take the Hurricane.

British enginuity

If we had those soviet crates then we would all be speaking German for sure!! They would never be able to get up high enough to fight the enemy.

[bobbysocks]

the first yak-1s started production in the early part of 1940 ( the prototype flew in 39 ) and werent war tested. at the time of the german invasion of russia there were only 400.,,and i am sure joe the benevolent wasnt about the lend lease them to anyone. so too little too late for the Bob. and like dave said the westeran air war was high altitude, 18k and up, not the best enviroment for russian planes. so if they did fly yaks they would have been one step closer to speaking german. the fins sure liked them from what i read. they were swating them down even before they got 109s in brewster buffalos no less...

ps thanks dave..

foz you must have posted at the same time as me....ditto

and as a last foot note....the brits did better at the beginning of their air war with "those old crates" than russia did when germany invaded. did the uk have1 inch of soil under a german hobnail boot?? hmmm let me think....NO!

[Gilly]

Dave, Foz, Bobby-Gentlemen I doth my cap in your general direction.

[Davedog74]

hoorah to the last three posts

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Gilly

'what we had to use them for'
Thought you were American?
Thankfully we didn't have yaks. We had the best if British and did kick adolf in the bollocks when no one else was. That is historical fact and something I'm immensely proud of as an Englishman. As it's currently the 70th anniversary of the Battle at this very moment I would tread very carefully with your wit.

I am American, but I'm also Soviet Ace!

Yeah, I was reading up on the BoB in one of my latest Aircraft History Magazines in the mail; had Hurricanes, Spits, 109s, etc. all cut up and showing their insides. (Drawn diagrams, not actual Spits, Hurricanes, etc. )

Still think you guys should have bought some trusty Yaks.