Friday 2010-09-03 Dev. update and Discussions

[winny]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

So, I've come to the conclusion that the virtual pilot is the correct size.

But maybe I just need a new pair of glasses.

Your pictures are wrong. The canopy lines you've put into the second pic should run parallel to the line of the canopy. You've put them in the same perspective as the top photograph so it's not at all accurate. The line should meet the frame work line of the open canopy, if you do that, the head is then smaller.

[nearmiss]

This is turning into the thread for "normalized human head and body sizes".

It would be nice to make everyone happy. So... normalized body and head sizes have got to be the way it's done in SOW.

That means we should start by researching human body and head sizes that were common during the time periods the war was fought. We have to ignore the men that were smaller or larger than the norm, because of the way the non-normalized humans will look in the SOW.

I sure don't want to be shooting down some AI enemy that is too short, or has a little head.

[Romanator21]

Is there anything other part of the plane you would like me to compare this to?

[peterwoods@supanet.com]

Suggest a good book on perspective and paralax would be a good place to start.

[Romanator21]

Suggest a good book on perspective and paralax would be a good place to start.

I hope you've read one yourself.

[Romanator21]

I can do this all day...

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

I can do this all day...

With respect, you have some crazy ideas with regards to taking scale references. Your lines mean absolutely nothing.

[Romanator21]

And just in case you missed this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj7nEL1ekzM

Tiny head? 1/2 as small as it should be? What anatomy course did you take?

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

And just in case you missed this one:

Tiny head? 1/2 as small as it should be? What anatomy course did you take?

That's a Spitfire by the way. Our references regard the Hurricane.

There is no doubt that the pilot figure is perfectly proportioned. That doesn't mean his head can't be too small in comparison to specific items on a Hurricane.

Imagine I took a full body picture of you in order to create a pilot figure. But once we create the model there's a problem....you're over 6ft and we want to create a smaller pilot that will cause fewer clipping problems when moving in the cockpit. Now instead of shortening your legs a bit and maybe squeezing your shoulders in a touch (leaving your head the same size) say we choose to shrink the entire model by 15%....

Hey, we still have a perfectly proportioned pilot model BUT everything including the head is now 15% smaller than it was. Now, when the head is compared to a Hurricane canopy panel it appears smaller than it should be because the head IS 15% smaller than the average adult head (assuming your head is normal that is).

Hope that makes sense!

I'm not saying this is what happened but it's a possibility.
We still need a clear unobstructed side-on shot without helmet to be sure though.

[Romanator21]

Oleg said that this was not the case and that the pilot figures are exactly 175 cm. That's close to 5'9''. There were NO reductions in scale.

You will notice I posted a pic of a spitfire, and the video of a spitfire. I shifted gears, but I'm still comparing apples to apples and pears to pears.

@ winny - I have, thanks. BTW, you should not have clipped the top of the SOW head by 3 inches while not doing the same for our other pilot.

This is a little more appropriate: