Friday 2010-09-03 Dev. update and Discussions

Romanator21 · #1 09-05-2010, 09:50 PM

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...you need your eyes checked

I appreciate your concern, but I already have a prescription.

You have to take into account that pilot helmets are not rubber swimming hats. In the first photo however, the proportions on the pilot's head are more apparent because his forehead is so exposed. The comparison is easier to make to the screenshot this way.

But let me show you what I am seeing and maybe we can come to terms in some way. Rather than compare the pilot to a random object like the plane's wheel, let's compare to the canopy frame which is much closer and thus less likely to be distorted due to FOV.

One thing to take into account is that while the canopy is fixed in place, the camera is in a different position. In one photo it looks slanted, and longer, while in the other it looks straight and shorter because it is slanting away from the viewer rather than across. So, we have to assess the vertical height of the slanted frame.

So, I've come to the conclusion that the virtual pilot is the correct size.

But maybe I just need a new pair of glasses.

peterwoods@supanet.com · #2 09-05-2010, 10:20 PM

Sorry Romanator, but even to the naked eye the relative head sizes in the two pictures are vastly different. Your crude attempt at measurement comparison is totally flawed.
Without attempting to use measuring sticks, compare the lower panel of the sliding canopy in each picture with the head in that picture, (the angular error and FOV mismatches are then as good as eliminated), and it is obvious that the pilot's head in the lower picture is almost half the size of that in the upper.
In the BoB era most US fighter aircraft were bult with very large cockpits, the same was not the case with European and British fighters.
Perhaps you should sue your optician, lol.

winny · #3 09-05-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21

So, I've come to the conclusion that the virtual pilot is the correct size.

But maybe I just need a new pair of glasses.

Your pictures are wrong. The canopy lines you've put into the second pic should run parallel to the line of the canopy. You've put them in the same perspective as the top photograph so it's not at all accurate. The line should meet the frame work line of the open canopy, if you do that, the head is then smaller.

nearmiss · #4 09-05-2010, 11:07 PM

This is turning into the thread for "normalized human head and body sizes".

It would be nice to make everyone happy. So... normalized body and head sizes have got to be the way it's done in SOW.

That means we should start by researching human body and head sizes that were common during the time periods the war was fought. We have to ignore the men that were smaller or larger than the norm, because of the way the non-normalized humans will look in the SOW.

I sure don't want to be shooting down some AI enemy that is too short, or has a little head.