Friday 2010-09-03 Dev. update and Discussions

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Hi Osprey, congratulations on your first post!



Maybe you should read some of the older update thread. You may actually be surprised how often it has been mentioned. But it is nearly impossible to make a judgement of something that is so dynamic as fire from a static screen shot.

To be honest I'm not sure if grainy over exposed gun camera footage would be a good thing to use as a comparison. I found it hard to see much detail of the fire in the video you linked to. (unless you are trying to promote a grainy over exposed atmosphere in the sim?)

Cheers!

I do read here, I just haven't posted before. I don't think you need HD footage to be able to see the effect of fire - you can see it's fire and you can see how big it is. In stock IL2 you will have a fat red 100ft of fireball coming out of the back of the aircraft and I have some small concern that this will be repeated according to the pictures i've seen so far. When you use the effects pack fires are radically different.

There's quite a few fires in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVoYVm1BlKQ

I have a lot of faith in the quality of Oleg and his team, I think it'll be a cracking product, but I want to see realistic visuals as well as the awesome flying realism they will give us. And of course I don't want porked .50cals this time, we can all see what fatal damage those APIT round do - I can't face another 7 years whining lol

[furbs]

very well done vid...thats the mod i use and its very very good...esp smoke, flame and tracers

[McHilt]

AWESOME video Osprey!

[Sturm_Williger]

Originally Posted by Osprey

... And of course I don't want porked .50cals this time, we can all see what fatal damage those APIT round do - I can't face another 7 years whining lol

Having been on the receiving end online of un-modded, but well-aimed .50 cals, I assure you that they have never been porked.

Perhaps the original dispersion didn't suit many, but on target they hurt ... just like the rl guncam footage we see. ( and most of the times I've had my FW190 sawn in half was from a high-speed bounce, not a several-seconds-of-firing effect. )

IMHO, the key is and always has been, the "well-aimed" aspect of firing .50 cals.

Osprey that vid is superb, and those mods are wonderful I use these to.

[Avimimus]

All of the effects mods (that I've tried) have really over-the-top explosions. The fact is that most people have only seen slow motion scale model explosions in old movies, gasoline fires and CGI fireballs. Even with gun camera footage - the published/surviving examples tend to show ammunition explosions etc. (rather than the less dramatic strafing runs).

The appearance of explosions in real life is quite a bit different from movies (or even from real explosions captured by cameras instead of the human eye).

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Sturm_Williger

Having been on the receiving end online of un-modded, but well-aimed .50 cals, I assure you that they have never been porked.

Perhaps the original dispersion didn't suit many, but on target they hurt ... just like the rl guncam footage we see. ( and most of the times I've had my FW190 sawn in half was from a high-speed bounce, not a several-seconds-of-firing effect. )

IMHO, the key is and always has been, the "well-aimed" aspect of firing .50 cals.

I recommend you take some trips out in the Pony and then come back telling us how many FW you de-winged before you start telling us about firepower. Most FW get away with damage because they roll or dive before the burst can be sustained in the same place for long enough, that's the 'well aimed part. That's the reality of it. 4x20mm? You shouldn't even be commenting mate.

[Sturm_Williger]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I recommend you take some trips out in the Pony and then come back telling us how many FW you de-winged before you start telling us about firepower. Most FW get away with damage because they roll or dive before the burst can be sustained in the same place for long enough, that's the 'well aimed part. That's the reality of it. 4x20mm? You shouldn't even be commenting mate.

Eh ? I never claimed that I was a good shot, I'm saying that other pilots are/were - and I can be confident in the truth of my assertion because I was on the receiving end when they tore me apart in the generally-regarded-as-tough-FW.

[katdogfizzow]

Those trees in 4 just look too incredible ...

[Hunger]

And of course I don't want porked .50cals this time, we can all see what fatal damage those APIT round do - I can't face another 7 years whining lol[/QUOTE]



Eh sorry pal, I dont know what guns you are using but if you set your convergence two 200 m and aim well you can shred a 109 in half in less than 2 seconds using any aircraft with 6 puny 50 cals.

Nice vid by the way.

Regards
Hunger