Friday 2010-08-27 Dev. update and Discussions

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

A slumped/prone figure is all I need. Racing past at 300 mph, I doubt I would be able see much more anyway. The only situation where details would be visible is in multi-crew aircrafts like the Blenheim, where you potentially may spend some time looking at a dead mate. Even there, a slumped position would do. With the amount of clothing, a crewman killed by bullets or splinters may not seep blood to any discernable degree.

This sim also needs to show your figure when flying as well, who ever heard of being invisable when flying. The biggest flaw with IL2 is when your in the cockpit looking around and low and behold there is no body flying the plane, the cockpit is empty. We should see a torso and legs on the ruddr pedals and a hand holding the flight stick. Any other look and its unreal.

[Chivas]

Personally I don't need a pilot, that will just be in the way of my view of the instruments. Or another set of commands to move an arm or leg blocking the instrument view. The absence of my pilot is certainly not an immersion killer for me. I doubt that the developers will take the extra time at this point to model it, but if they do, I hope its an option you can toggle off.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Personally I don't need a pilot, that will just be in the way of my view of the instruments. .

Do you sit on your instruments??Last I checked most guages are in front of the pilot not under the seat. Next time your driving look down and see if your seat is empty, I'll bet you see something besides your empty seat.
And looking down in the pit and NOT seeing a torso and legs on rudder pedals does detract from immersion a bit. How is that going to prevent you from reading gauges? Most of the stuff you need to see is high enough above the flight stick that its not an issue. If this sim is going to be realistic in first person mode you need to see your body in pit. Anything less is unrealistic. Hell most first person shooters do this.

[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

Do you sit on your instruments??Last I checked most guages are in front of the pilot not under the seat..

You're right, but the arms tend to block out quite a few instruments.

Skarphol

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

You're right, but the arms tend to block out quite a few instruments.

Skarphol

Realistically the only gauges you need to see are airspeed, altitude, manifold pressure and maybe one or 2 more and if im not mistaken all those are pretty much high enough so as to not be blocked by arms or legs. Fuel gauge is usually not necessary as most flights dont last long enough to worry about fuel.

[BigC208]

When you have your arms, legs visible they better be moving realistically. If not just leave em out all together. Looking down and seeing a stiff, non moving body is more of an immersion killer than having nothing at all. Can you imagine watching your hands moving to the panel to realign the DG with the magnetic compass. Reaching up to the canopy release latch before bailing out with a first person view of your arms and legs flopping in the wind? Have that body there but make it work! Probably not going to happen anytime soon but it would be nice.

[burlaff]

A 1st person view of bailing out would certainly add to the emmersion. Also, I think it would be good if you could see 'yourself' in the cockpit and be 'thrown around' by the g-forces - as long as it didn't get in the way of course...

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

Do you sit on your instruments??Last I checked most guages are in front of the pilot not under the seat. Next time your driving look down and see if your seat is empty, I'll bet you see something besides your empty seat.
And looking down in the pit and NOT seeing a torso and legs on rudder pedals does detract from immersion a bit. How is that going to prevent you from reading gauges? Most of the stuff you need to see is high enough above the flight stick that its not an issue. If this sim is going to be realistic in first person mode you need to see your body in pit. Anything less is unrealistic. Hell most first person shooters do this.

"Do you sit on your instruments?"

A question like that doesn't deserve an answer. But it does prove you don't know what your talking about.

[Insuber]

I humbly suggest the moderators to moderate this thread.

[LukeFF]

Is it Friday yet? We need a new reason for people to gripe and complain and take threads off-topic.