Friday 2010-08-27 Dev. update and Discussions

[philip.ed]

The thing is this; if a simulator was bloody enough to make you feel bad, then that is good. I will explain. You see, in il-2 I always try and aim for the cockpit when I can and I don't feel bad about seeing a cartoonish character get killed. If, in SoW, the effect of shooting an enemy gunner/pilot was realistic and gruesome enough to make me feel bad about taking someone's life like that, I may be more chivalrous in my fighting in the game. So by this i mean that I may think twice about aiming for the pilot to at least give him a chance to bail-out.

[Insuber]

Nice read BG, thank you! Don't forget nevertheless that Oleg expressed very clearly his position on blood and gore, and for very good reasons by the way.

Cheers!

[philip.ed]

I agree though that blood and gore are the last things to worry about modelling in a sim like this

[BG-09]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Nice read BG, thank you! Don't forget nevertheless that Oleg expressed very clearly his position on blood and gore, and for very good reasons by the way.

Cheers!

Thanks Insuber! I am proud to be part of this community! I am just trying to help Oleg's team to recreate the Battle Of Britain in greater detail. The devil is in to the detail, as often people said.

Cheers!

[tourmaline]

Originally Posted by BG-09

Thanks Insuber! I am proud to be part of this community! I am just trying to help Oleg's team to recreate the Battle Of Britain in greater detail. The devil is in to the detail, as often people said.

Cheers!

With the political debates going on banning gore/hard core violence games, this isn't much of an issue here, no gore means no problems. And i have no doubt whatsoever that Oleg will go this route...Furthermore, when you shoot down a plane, you not always see what's inside the cockpit...

Some of you have a wild fantasy of details here...

If a pilot was hit and his head + body would fall over, constrained by the safety belts, that would be more then enough. Like someone in a sleeping postion in a chair.

[BG-09]

Originally Posted by tourmaline

If a pilot was hit and his head + body would fall over, constrained by the safety belts, that would be more then enough. Like someone in a sleeping postion in a chair.

Yes, it will be good enough. But mate, think about the realism: what will happens, when Ju-87 drops a 1000 kg bomb over double-decker bus in London, full of passengers /as Oleg is planing/ - every body of the passengers "will sleep in a chair"? It does not fit. Or may be, the passengers will fly "sleeping" a 100 meters away?

Cheers!

[Daniël]

Originally Posted by BG-09

Yes, it will be good enough. But mate, think about the realism: what will happens, when Ju-87 drops a 1000 kg bomb over double-decker bus in London, full of passengers /as Oleg is planing/ - every body of the passengers "will sleep in a chair"? It does not fit. Or may be, the passengers will fly "sleeping" a 100 meters away?

Cheers!

In that case disappearance would be the best option if teared limbs are forbidden. Seeing "sleeping" passengers 100 m away would be a strange sight

[BG-09]

Originally Posted by Daniël

In that case disappearance would be the best option if teared limbs are forbidden. Seeing "sleeping" passengers 100 m away would be a strange sight

Nice solution of the problem.
The best solution is very difficult to be found - we have to confess that SoW-BoB will have to depict real war, with all consequences of that war. WW2 pilots have done very merciless and severe damages to civil population. They were shooting virtually at everything that moves, and than stating that they were doing this for the fatherland. How now we can represent this, and even watch this without any censure?!

[tourmaline]

Originally Posted by BG-09

Yes, it will be good enough. But mate, think about the realism: what will happens, when Ju-87 drops a 1000 kg bomb over double-decker bus in London, full of passengers /as Oleg is planing/ - every body of the passengers "will sleep in a chair"? It does not fit. Or may be, the passengers will fly "sleeping" a 100 meters away?

Cheers!

Mate, i was talking about shot pilots trapped in their safety belts. NOT about busses full of people.

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

The thing is this; if a simulator was bloody enough to make you feel bad, then that is good. I will explain. You see, in il-2 I always try and aim for the cockpit when I can and I don't feel bad about seeing a cartoonish character get killed. If, in SoW, the effect of shooting an enemy gunner/pilot was realistic and gruesome enough to make me feel bad about taking someone's life like that, I may be more chivalrous in my fighting in the game. So by this i mean that I may think twice about aiming for the pilot to at least give him a chance to bail-out.

How about if you just witnessed your wingman's head being blown into a million pieces from that same 'enemy gunner/pilot'. Would that still encourage you to be 'more chivalrous'...?

My real point is not to forget that this is just a computer game. Although I personally like a lot of realism in my simulations, I do think that some people get a little carried away with their requests. Just my opinion, of course.

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