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Old 08-29-2010, 12:49 PM
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if it is ubisoft i sadly very sadly wont purchase the game
The most stupid statement i've heard today, really?
So you're gonna boycott the game due to the publisher, fail..

Doesn't matter to me and shouldn't matter to anyone who the publisher is, if that stops you, i do feel sorry for you and the time you've wasted w8ing for it.
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:59 PM
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That shows 1C which publisher they shouldnt choose.


Well this DRM should be meant to be against pirates.
But the only ones that have advantage are the pirates.
They don't have to struggle with that damn DRM.
And there won't be any pirate protect that isn't cracked within less a month.

So the only effect is that the fair minded customers are cheated.


AND THE WINNER IS...... THE PIRATE.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:45 PM
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I'd be OK if it will come with Steam, but Ubi DRM is a huge no go.
I'd rather learn Russian and pick up the 1c release
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:15 PM
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I hope that wont be released with DRM by Ubi
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:29 AM
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The most stupid statement i've heard today, really?
So you're gonna boycott the game due to the publisher, fail..

Doesn't matter to me and shouldn't matter to anyone who the publisher is, if that stops you, i do feel sorry for you and the time you've wasted w8ing for it.
meh .. if the DRM is too onerous on SOW I will just ignore it like I did ROF and go do something else.

To be honest with the amount of time I have spent on IL2 I could have built my own airplane by now - it might be a good thing if SOW is loaded down with horrible counter-productive DRM software to encourage me to go do something more constructive
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:34 PM
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:21 AM
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I must say it will be 1c,as why would they be using 1c forum,s
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:43 PM
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I must say it will be 1c,as why would they be using 1c forum,s
They are using these forums for IL-2 and still the publisher in europe and many other parts of the world was ubisoft...

I second the posts in this topic though. I will not buy this from Ubisoft or Steam or any other release with crazy DRM lockdown. Are there any news on this?

The point is this. I see Steam as a spyware and don't want it running on my system.
With ubisoft... we all knew the issues with it it's DRM attempts.

I just want a simple game that I can install and put the disk away again. In fact I don't even have an optical drive attached to my workstation anymore and most of my CD's and DVD's are broken.


So if things don't work out in europe to me the only options are:
1. Getting an english release through 1c or any other retailer without crazy DRM
or
2. Buying the russian version and play with a cracked english one.

I'm German and I don't mind playing an english version. But I can't speak russian so sadly that's out of the question...


I want to support the developers and honest publishers with my money, not a publisher who treats PAYING customers like pirates. It shouldn't be the people who buy the game suffering from stupid DRM. If anything it should be the people NOT paying for the game.

I'd love to pre-order this game DRM free in english directly from the developers / 1c (I don't mind a key for multiplayer or anything but no rootkits, crazy DRM locks like activations or forced on-line only play etc.). I wouldn't even mind sending the money straight to Oleg himself and getting a copy. I just definately won't buy it if it's coming from the people at ubi or any other publisher that has nothing else to do other than developing DRM schemes.

This goes especially for European releases and even more so for German ones. We pay really high prices here, much more than any other country usually, for example the USA or UK (a ton cheaper), even for english titles. And on top of that we get our asses kicked for paying more. No thanks.

A game's just bit's and bytes but still some publishers are treating the customers who payed for a game worse than... poop. I don't want to depend on remote servers and ask some 3rd party if I am allowed to play the game that I bought.
I'm sure anyone can understand this at least a little bit.

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Old 09-01-2010, 09:24 PM
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They are using these forums for IL-2 and still the publisher in europe and many other parts of the world was ubisoft...

I second the posts in this topic though. I will not buy this from Ubisoft or Steam or any other release with crazy DRM lockdown. Are there any news on this?

The point is this. I see Steam as a spyware and don't want it running on my system.
With ubisoft... we all knew the issues with it it's DRM attempts.

I just want a simple game that I can install and put the disk away again. In fact I don't even have an optical drive attached to my workstation anymore and most of my CD's and DVD's are broken.


So if things don't work out in europe to me the only options are:
1. Getting an english release through 1c or any other retailer without crazy DRM
or
2. Buying the russian version and play with a cracked english one.

I'm German and I don't mind playing an english version. But I can't speak russian so sadly that's out of the question...


I want to support the developers and honest publishers with my money, not a publisher who treats PAYING customers like pirates. It shouldn't be the people who buy the game suffering from stupid DRM. If anything it should be the people NOT paying for the game.

I'd love to pre-order this game DRM free in english directly from the developers / 1c (I don't mind a key for multiplayer or anything but no rootkits, crazy DRM locks like activations or forced on-line only play etc.). I wouldn't even mind sending the money straight to Oleg himself and getting a copy. I just definately won't buy it if it's coming from the people at ubi or any other publisher that has nothing else to do other than developing DRM schemes.

This goes especially for European releases and even more so for German ones. We pay really high prices here, much more than any other country usually, for example the USA or UK (a ton cheaper), even for english titles. And on top of that we get our asses kicked for paying more. No thanks.

A game's just bit's and bytes but still some publishers are treating the customers who payed for a game worse than... poop. I don't want to depend on remote servers and ask some 3rd party if I am allowed to play the game that I bought.
I'm sure anyone can understand this at least a little bit.
While I understand everything about DRM and I fully agree, with Steam it is a different matter. I've had nothing but pleasant experience with it. And if I am to chose between the two, I would in a blink of an eye select Steam. Besides, Steam makes it harder to mod the game which is also nice.

Wishing for a game without any copy protection nowadays is to be blunt... unreal.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:03 PM
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If you go looking for free software and look at the number of downloads that are constantly being ripped off on popular software, music, videos and other media site... it is in the millions 24/7 at broadband speeds constantly.

Piracy is a huge problem, huge is not adequate "gargantuan" still doesn't descirbe it. Those millions of people that are constantly stealing media aren't buying media.

In America the entire music scene has changed. The most popular music is pre-teen and rap. That isn't true, but those are the people buying the music. That's why artists targeting pre-teens and rap rule the Grammys. The people that are more computer literate are stealing all they want from share sites. So, the true figures for what music is or isn't popular is not relative to the number of buyers.

I have a friend that plays guitar in a pretty well recognized group. He says, "If we didn't do live performances constantly we couldn't survive. We see hundreds of thousands of downloads for our music, but we get paid nada. We are tied to road trips and nightclub performances, just to make a living."

The Eagle Dynamics developers http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/

have their methods and they are invasive, but you definitely don't see their stuff all over the web for free sharing.

I bought the LockOn, but never purchased anything after that. At the time I hated the piracy locks, but I understand they are improved. Regardless... I didn't really care that much for the fast movers anyway.

Whatever Oleg has to do, to protect his software I will go along with. I hope he can protect his software, because he deserves to be paid fairly.

The software protection environment has changed and protection of intellectual rights requires more radical methods. All the jibe about a pop in CD or DVD only (nowadays)... We all know that won't get the job done, just like we know we need a virus scan (nowadays), if we participate on the internet.

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