Friday 2010-08-27 Dev. update and Discussions

[Jumo211]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Luthier; is prop refelction modelled? I ask as when I first saw this used in WoP I thought it was overdone, but after being to an airshow recently I noticed the reflection of the sun on the spinning prop quite vividly

Here it can be also seen at 0:42 , propeller is pretty visible under some angle view with light reflection :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ZAONQVF5I

[tourmaline]

[QUOTE=Jumo211;178110]Here it can be also seen at 0:42 , propeller is pretty visible under some angle view with light reflection :

Nice footage...Now they also have a reference of how a shooting p-51 should sound...

[Pierre@]

Look at 1:58: the pilot bails out.

[jameson]

I have to say I'm astonished by the belief that the sound on that video is accurate. It was obviously a real aeroplane making the sound, but which one I wouldn't like to say. Gun cameras did not record sound, it was added after the event most likely with whatever was convenient and hanging around.
A cursory watch of numerous episodes of German wartime cinema propaganda clearly show repeat film sequences in engagements that occured at different times and places. Particularly sad are the ones from 1945 supposedly reporting fighting against the Russians that are clearly manufactured to show that the Germans were winning although the Russians were probably shelling Berlin by the time they were shown.
Take it all with a big pinch of salt. Especially now it's possible to fabricate anything in this digital age. See Hollywood, wikipedia, lol!
Regards

[McHilt]

This thread goes WAAAAAAAAAYYY OFF topic...
hope it's getting friday soon.

[tourmaline]

Originally Posted by jameson

I have to say I'm astonished by the belief that the sound on that video is accurate. It was obviously a real aeroplane making the sound, but which one I wouldn't like to say. Gun cameras did not record sound, it was added after the event most likely with whatever was convenient and hanging around.
A cursory watch of numerous episodes of German wartime cinema propaganda clearly show repeat film sequences in engagements that occured at different times and places. Particularly sad are the ones from 1945 supposedly reporting fighting against the Russians that are clearly manufactured to show that the Germans were winning although the Russians were probably shelling Berlin by the time they were shown.
Take it all with a big pinch of salt. Especially now it's possible to fabricate anything in this digital age. See Hollywood, wikipedia, lol!
Regards

It still sounds better then any other videogame sound.

Some of you don't seem to get this, so here it is in a 3 step formula that makes everything clear.

1. Blood/Gore = Loss of Available Markets for the Game

2. Loss of Available Markets for the Game = Less Profit for Oleg and Co.

3. Less Profits for Oleg and Co. = Less or possibly NO Future Development on the SOW series.

That means. . . .

Pilot having his blood and brains splattered all over the inside of the cockpit = BAD!!!
Pilot Slumping over the controls = Probably ok.
Bailed-out Pilot gibbing into a million bloody chunks = BAD!!!
Bailed-out Pilot going limp in his parachute harness = Probably ok.

Oleg is not going to add depictions of blood/gore/swastikas/naked women/animal abuse/drug use/etc... To do any of those would cause his title to be rated "adult/mature" in some countries and be banned in others. This is business suicide, something he can not afford given the markets that buy flight sims and the size and resources of his company.

Are there even mods here? How about throwing around a few bans/probations for people who keep going way off topic on things that have been beaten to death already?

(Back on topic)

Now the rear part of the canopy on the JU-88 being ejected from the aircraft (4th pic), would that be as a result of the damage from the Hurricane behind it, or is that part of the bail-out procedure for the gunner? I'm just wondering if MG fire is really going to cause the canopy to fall off like that. That seems to me to be something more akin to cannon or flak damage.

Also, I have to say that the tracers look perfect from what I have seen in person and on video.

Tracers at dusk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GJzi1PZ26A

Tracers in the day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx5aR1Knpb8

I should note that the videos are showing the use of tracers that have a delay before lighting up, so as to not give away the shooter's exact location. I believe tracers used in the air on both sides had no delay.

[Rubberchicken]

Originally Posted by Jumo211

Here it can be also seen at 0:42 , propeller is pretty visible under some angle view with light reflection :

Talk about gore, at 2:02 you can see the pilot of the mistel hanging under his plane by his chute and the P51 is still shooting.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Jumo211

Here it can be also seen at 0:42 , propeller is pretty visible under some angle view with light reflection :

Great footage mate! It'd be awesome to see this in game.

[C_G]

On the whole blood/gore issue, personally I have no problem with it. In IL2 all it took was a conf.ini change to activate it, and I did. War is War.

I don't think the addition of blood/gore and consequential rating change would have much if any impact on sales. Haven't you seen the 12 yr-olds at EBGames buying games where the whole point appears to be to kill your opponent in close combat in the goriest way possible? Have those games' sales suffered? Are the 12 yr-olds a market segment likely to buy SoW:Bob?

That said, creating blood/gore would take resources away from far more important details and for that reason I'll happily do without.
I'm also happy that we'll never have to have 23-page discussions on how the depiction of blood inaccurately protrays the coagulation time of blood on a hot perspex canopy...