Wich joystick to buy?

[Armatian]

Ah of course, i forgot hi performance planes, wich of course i haven't flown.
I remember japan ace, saburo sakai noting that rookie kamikazes shouldn't have done dives, because at high speed with big control surfaces, zero's stick became like a rock and they used to water crash low unable to lift.
So FF still not a priority for me, but you have made a good point.

PD: wow that logitech looks beatiful, maybe i'll be tempted to sell a kidney.