oleg, sparks in burning planes, crappy example

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Yes, that would be fantastic. Not to mention the chance of the sparks igniting fuel from leaking tanks, it would make emergency landings really scary.

We would have steel Nuts and bolts, etc so I would expect some sparks, but please no sparks on grass airfields!

[KG26_Alpha]

Most of the structure is Aluminium with very little steel if any, the He111 has a steel wing spar but would take some serious grinding to get anywhere near it.
Typically using steel nuts and bolts is no good as it reacts with the alloy, and adds to the weight of the aircraft dramatically.

Please no sparks and Hollywood style fires and effects, the IL2 series has already suffered exploding planes and Hollywood effects, most belly landings were uneventful affairs.

Besides SoW will be mostly grass airfields and any pilot going for a belly landing will take the grass over the concrete probably.

Wing of P51 replica.

[Skoshi Tiger]

I guess its a matter of individual aircraft, weights and velocities and viewing angle. Although larger aircraft seam to spark quite freely, finding a good video of a light aircraft sparking is quite hard.

This light plane has quiet a healthy spark at around 16sec of the clip, seen from another angle this may have gone un-noticed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVwih5xFGHg

(sorry -disable in embeded- need to open it in a new window or tab!)

Something like a Spitfire or a mustang would be twice as heavy as this light plane and the Mustang has large magnesium alloy casting for attachment of the undercarrage.

Unfortunately owners of old war birds tend to be quite gentle with them when their doing forced landings and perfer to land on the grass at the side of the strip (very considerate!) so like I said theres not many videos around of them landing on concrete.

No matter what, like Alpha said I would not like hollywood style fires and effects. Keep it realistic!

[Eugene1St]

I'm of the opinion that any sparks from a burning fuselage at speed would be either internal, where there is less wind or blown out before becoming visible. I think sparks would ruin the burning effect.

[KG26_Alpha]

Put sparks where they belong in SoW

Prop strike (steel props) as in the vid above @16 secs, and landing gear assembly.

On concrete of course.

[Igo kyu]

I saw a fatal crash once.

It was a light plane. The angle of impact was something like 5 or 10 degrees. There were big sparks, presumably from the undercarriage coming off, on grass

[Mysticpuma]

Yeah, I would agree, sparks on impacts with runway or the like (roads or gear clipping tanks, etc, etc) but not from burning aircraft in the air.....for the sake of the GPU if anything. I'd rather have the power diverted to cloud/water or lighting effects thanks!

Cheers, MP