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Old 08-06-2010, 06:29 PM
FPSOlkor FPSOlkor is offline
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Translation is not perfect but it's good enough to understand 100% of the story, so no issues there.
A little thing that might help would be to have a short summary of places mentioned in the interviews and the names of the people involved in the story, maybe in diagram form to make it easier to do. Of course, i understand that this is extra work for you guys and i'm not nitpicking.
If you will make a list of locations I can do the description - but on the other hand it it quite possible to do a search on wikimapia... In this current interview most of locations mentioned are within 70 KM from Leningrad...
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:50 PM
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I wouldn't call it a dirty trick, it was one of a life time chance, that he used at best. But if he would not take off due to bad weather or returned from his route as his wingman did there would be no such luck at all.

Speaking of attacks by airplane - in late 80's I worked for pocket money at Fornosovo railway station for a couple of summers, unloading incoming carts. I did not know that this station was used for training purposes by ShAP from Siverskaya. When I once raised my head towards sky and saw a falling planes at me, I shited my pants... Those were Su-22s or something, and they scared me to death... But two month later I didn't even look at the sky when I heard jet engine sound.
Well, i didn't mean it in a degrading way, it's more in line with the motto we hear from combat veterans "If you find yourself in a fair fight, you messed up"



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If you will make a list of locations I can do the description - but on the other hand it it quite possible to do a search on wikimapia... In this current interview most of locations mentioned are within 70 KM from Leningrad...
Oh, that's good to know then. I understood it had to do with the Leningrad siege, but i didn't know it was such small distances from the city. Again, thanks for bringing this to us
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:20 PM
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Oh, that's good to know then. I understood it had to do with the Leningrad siege, but i didn't know it was such small distances from the city. Again, thanks for bringing this to us
Some locations with precise cross positions.
former airfield Kamenka
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=60.0547307...6&z=12&l=1&m=b
former AB Borki
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=59.9452968...3&z=13&l=1&m=b
former AB Gora-Valday
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=59.9666111...7&z=13&l=1&m=b
Bottleneck Sinyavino
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=59.9040903...2&z=11&l=1&m=b
Rakvere
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=59.3356409...6&z=11&l=1&m=b
Volosovo-Narva road where incident discussed above took place
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=59.4031612...5&z=10&l=1&m=b

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Old 08-07-2010, 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the links Olkor, interesting read. Comparing these interviews/books from all sides and to historical sources gives quite a good picture on certain things. And can bring up new information.

The saying "which design was not done in prison" has some truth behind it in the Soviet system. Stalin is idolised even today as a great and glorious leader but even Lenin had said that J.S. should never be given any power. Well he got it anyway after Lenin's death and results are history. He wiped out countless of his own people in the "purges" and mass relocations, killed many of top military brass in the 1937 "cleansing" and replaced them etc. The totalitarian regime of the Stalin's era was not any better than Germany's at the time. The flags were different but the methods the same: propaganda and strict "surveillance" kept people in check.

Anyways, back to topic. Keep those links coming.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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Thanks for the links Olkor, interesting read. Comparing these interviews/books from all sides and to historical sources gives quite a good picture on certain things. And can bring up new information.

The saying "which design was not done in prison" has some truth behind it in the Soviet system. Stalin is idolised even today as a great and glorious leader but even Lenin had said that J.S. should never be given any power. Well he got it anyway after Lenin's death and results are history. He wiped out countless of his own people in the "purges" and mass relocations, killed many of top military brass in the 1937 "cleansing" and replaced them etc. The totalitarian regime of the Stalin's era was not any better than Germany's at the time. The flags were different but the methods the same: propaganda and strict "surveillance" kept people in check.

Anyways, back to topic. Keep those links coming.
Oh... Don't start this crap again... Too much Discovery channel viewed...
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:11 PM
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No discovery channel, just historical researches based on Russian documents. They opened up some years ago.
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Old 08-08-2010, 10:12 AM
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No discovery channel, just historical researches based on Russian documents. They opened up some years ago.
We must have read different docs... At least those I studied show picture a lot different then that commonly presented...
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