Friday 2010-07-30 Dev. update and Discussions

[Xilon_x]

no no sven not important if i lost or i winn i think this is only a simple simbol not dagerous for world simbols not is important but the very importance is the human mentality.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Xilon_x

no no sven not important if i lost or i winn i think this is only a simple simbol not dagerous for world simbols not is important but the very importance is the human mentality.

1st time agree with you.
(maybe I should mark this day in the calendar)

But it's not about mentality but some crazy paranoia.

Profanity is prohibited on this forums

[Foo'bar]

Totally unneccessary discussion about swastica and german or russian law. Once americans permitted germans to use it and today americans complain about germans don't want to use it any more, lol Paint it onto the skin if you can't live without...

More important is the following:

I wonder why nobody is complaining about pilot's size? If I got luthier right then MG sized down the pilots inside cockpits in external models to prevent them to clip canopy when beeing animated.

I still ask myself if I got that matter right, and if so then I have do disagree. I'd rather would have less animations in a 109's cockpit than a 1,20 m dwarf. If a cockpit is too tight to make any gymnastics inside then, well, I can't make them.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

I wonder why nobody is complaining about pilot's size? If I got luthier right then MG sized down the pilots inside cockpits in external models to prevent them to clip canopy when beeing animated.

I still ask myself if I got that matter right, and if so then I have do disagree. I'd rather would have less animations in a 109's cockpit than a 1,20 m dwarf. If a cockpit is too tight to make any gymnastics inside then, well, I can't make them.

"complaints" about the pilots size started with my post on pg 4 iirc about another 6 or 7 posters have made similar remarks in this thread after that.

if this is a short term compromise however and is not easy to fix because of complex pilot animation factors, then it isnt really that critical imo. not worth causing delays over to try and sort it out just before release time. i would expect/hope this be a priority issue to be resolved in the first patches however.

for the german 109's, it is very obvious the pilot is about 25% to small

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

Totally unneccessary discussion about swastica and german or russian law. Once americans permitted germans to use it and today americans complain about germans don't want to use it any more, lol Paint it onto the skin if you can't live without...

More important is the following:

I wonder why nobody is complaining about pilot's size? If I got luthier right then MG sized down the pilots inside cockpits in external models to prevent them to clip canopy when beeing animated.

I still ask myself if I got that matter right, and if so then I have do disagree. I'd rather would have less animations in a 109's cockpit than a 1,20 m dwarf. If a cockpit is too tight to make any gymnastics inside then, well, I can't make them.

It's all part of the animation thing. Our stock pilots are 175 cm I think. With tight cockpits like the 109, we have to find a fragile balance between height and shoulder room so they don't clip through the sides of the cockpit during maneuvers.

I think wha he is saying is, that they settled on 175cm for the pilot figure to make it fit every cockpit and allow for all the animations to be flawless.

And 175cm was not unusual for pilots, taller ones usually ended up as bomber/transport pilots due to the restrictive nature of the fighter cockpits.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Zorin

It's all part of the animation thing. Our stock pilots are 175 cm I think. With tight cockpits like the 109, we have to find a fragile balance between height and shoulder room so they don't clip through the sides of the cockpit during maneuvers.

I think wha he is saying is, that they settled on 175cm for the pilot figure to make it fit every cockpit and allow for all the animations to be flawless.

And 175cm was not unusual for pilots, taller ones usually ended up as bomber/transport pilots due to the restrictive nature of the fighter cockpits.

wasnt the english pilot in the recent video posted here 1.76 cm tall ? and he was VERY cramped in the 109 cockpit and his head touched the canopy when closed

for the hurricane and spitfire this is less critical (even if the same oleg-BoB pilot figure still looks a bit to small/short) because real life pilots ( as seen in several real life photographs posted here in recent threads confirm) had more room.

still, not a reason to spend weeks/months of bug fixing time on right now imho. solve it after release

[fireflyerz]

Well, scrolling through the vairious screenshots the figure size looks undersized in almost all fighter and bomber cockpits , I was under the impression this was just a place holder ?