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Old 07-30-2010, 12:31 AM
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Accountability is probably the first and foremost reason that this project is running late. These men are accountable to their families, their jobs, and to their real world commitments as well as their own desire to put out a top quality product well before any need to pacify entitlement age twits who need to have everything they want immediately.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:08 AM
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I think you are just overexaggerating a little bit. There are many people in the world who provide free softwares (including games, and big ones in our genres) or other stuffs. They also have their daily obssession. But once they made a promise, they would try their best to fulfill it. It is called responsibility, which has nothing to do with money. One should be responsible to what he/she said. They should try hard to live up to their promise. Just imagine how the world will become if everyone doesn't care about what he/she said.

Making promise gives other people hope, which is also a pleasure. Fullfilling it will greatly delight yourself and those people even more. So don't give people pleasure and then destroy it.

Make a promise, and live up to it. Or don't make any at all.
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Make a promise, and live up to it. Or don't make any at all.
So you are telling TD not to release the patch?

Exactly what 'promise' did anyone make anyway? Look at the original posting:
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4.10 Patch Overview - updated weekly
- all listed planning and content is subject to change by DT or 1C/MG
It was only ever provisional, and has since been substantially revised by (amongst other things) 1C/MG giving access to development software that TD didn't have - in the short term, this obviously slowed things down.

Can I suggest that anyone who feels 'let down' by TD stops complaining, unless they have something constructive to add. Endless whining isn't going to make anything happen quicker...
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:27 AM
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Can I suggest that anyone who feels 'let down' by TD stops complaining, unless they have something constructive to add. Endless whining isn't going to make anything happen quicker...
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TD can always say "bugger it" and stop any further production and not release anything at all.

I too, am anxiously waiting for this patch to be released, however I would want it working properly and have than riddled with bugs and get turned off this great game.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:27 PM
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Accountability is probably the first and foremost reason that this project is running late. These men are accountable to their families, their jobs, and to their real world commitments as well as their own desire to put out a top quality product well before any need to pacify entitlement age twits who need to have everything they want immediately.
Thank you, I wouldn't say it better myself. Also as we tried to explain several times, the schedule posted was provisional and yes, we have changed too many things compared to the original intended content for 4.10.

Open beta - no added value for TD or IL-2 fans. We are aware of the issues, it takes time to polish/fix them. Minor bugs we may not catch will be addressed via dedicated bug reporting thread and fixed in 4.11.

I guess it will need to be repeated on weekly basis and even though it has been said in this thread already:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...postcount=1208

Lesson learned from 4.10 development however: To release much smaller and less complex patches with small content in the future = less complaining and less work for us.

4.10 Update: We have initiated another round of beta testing last week. Still things to do, but it's another step closer.

Thanks for patience and do enjoy the summer till it lasts.

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thank you Martin... you guys always do a great job!! thumbs up!!

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Great to see the emplimentation of additional inputs/axis for multi-engine aircraft. Can we see this happen with wheel brakes in future patches as well?
As a real pilot using rudder peddals in-game, a single-axis for wheel braking has always bugged me about this sim series.

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Old 07-30-2010, 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the update, Martin! It is much appreciated.

Thanks,

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Old 07-30-2010, 09:33 PM
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Great to see the emplimentation of additional inputs/axis for multi-engine aircraft. Can we see this happen with wheel brakes in future patches as well?
As a real pilot using rudder peddals in-game, a single-axis for wheel braking has always bugged me about this sim series.

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Most of the planes in game have this kind of "single-axis" system. There's usually a brake lever and rudders just control how the pressure is distributed between gears. If you check the D.XXI, you can see the whole valve system and how rudder pedals move the brake pressure valve.

We probably could do a the dual brake axis system, but it would need to function side by side with the old (current) system.
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Great to see the emplimentation of additional inputs/axis for multi-engine aircraft. Can we see this happen with wheel brakes in future patches as well?
As a real pilot using rudder peddals in-game, a single-axis for wheel braking has always bugged me about this sim series.

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Its historically correct and what you would have to put up with if you flew one of these old aircraft in real life

Some of the planes in the sim had toe brakes but not many.

You can still map the brake axis in the game to one of the toe brakes for proportional brake control but need to move the rudder for differential braking.

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The existing system could probably use a bit of "tuning" as it is, perhaps it's just me but the differential brakes only seem to kick in at full rudder. It makes planes with quirky ground handling just impossible (like the He111). To have pedal actuated differential braking on the appropriate planes would be a great bonus.
Works fine for me (CH PRO Pedals) ... BTW the Dunlop Triple Brake Gauge in the lower right of the B534 cockpit is fully functional and is a great way of checking your brake setup. It displays exactly how much pressure is going to left and right wheels.

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