Friday 2010-07-23 Dev. update and Discussions

[Flanker35M]

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Thanks for the update. Read thru the thread and it cleared up some things. Lot of WIP there but also if you look closer, a LOT more is there to be discovered. Enjoy the vacation Oleg and waiting for the next week's update

Abbeville Boy. You should keep that comment to yourself. Potenz and others have made excellent work on improving IL-2 effects and those new ones are far better than originals, period. Without Team Daidalos/Oleg IL2 would be dead as it has not offered anything new in years..Now it still does with official updates. Have a nice weekend.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Thanks for the update. Read thru the thread and it cleared up some things. Lot of WIP there but also if you look closer, a LOT more is there to be discovered. Enjoy the vacation Oleg and waiting for the next week's update

Abbeville Boy. You should keep that comment to yourself. Potenz and others have made excellent work on improving IL-2 effects and those new ones are far better than originals, period. Without Team Daidalos/OlegIL2 would be dead as it has not offered anything new in years..Now it still does with official updates. Have a nice weekend.

You seem to have missed the point. Each week the same group of people throw around much criticism.up-date, and insure us that they know better than the team. They are nothing but hackers, who complain a lot, and who say..Look here, look at my work, isn't it wonderful. That is like someone taking a brush to a fine painting, and saying..There I fixed it, now lets put my name on it......I agree with A-B, and you try to have a nice weekend as well.

[FG28_Kodiak]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

You seem to have missed the point. Each week the same group of people throw around much criticism. ability to judge a WIP up-date, and insure us that they know better than the team. They are nothing but hackers, who complain a lot, and who say..Look here, look at my work, isn't it wonderful. That is like someone taking a brush to a fine painting, and saying..There I fixed it, now lets put my name on it......I agree with A-B, and you try to have a nice weekend as well.

+1

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Aed

So.. U tryi to say that modders are just huckers? Huh..

No, calling them hackers is too much honor for them. Think on letter "L".

Originally Posted by Aed

Modders gives a new life to IL 2... and expanded lot of functions.. For Example MDS..

Not very good example, actually. For many reasons.

Originally Posted by Aed

MG asked money and refused to make moving ground units online.

What a bullsht.

Originally Posted by Aed

Besides modders has specialisations.. as planes, function, FX.. and other.. And they know their line of activity some time better and wider than authors team..

LOL!!! and then - doublefacepalm.

Originally Posted by Aed

People want's to get a best product.. and they helps as they can..

Yeah, but then there is a good saying: don't start something, if you don't know how to do it.

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I agree with SlipBall 100%.


MODS discussion is prohibited on these forums.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

No matter what good modders have done - they have killed on-line community. Period. The best part of IL2 died from the moment mods became widespread.

+++1
And some people said it would happen, people who saw CFS3 online die, and other games. Lots of squadrons switched to IL2 when modding made CFS3 a mess, at least online. Modding is the sworn enemy of any online game.
And yes they are hackers. The code wasn't given to them, period. I am aware that nice things have been done, yes...but they can be happy 1C didn't come after them with lawsuits, IMO.

[philip.ed]

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Oleg and Ilya; regarding tracer, will different types of tracer and ammo be able to be chosen by the player? Also, what sources are you using for the RAF tracer rounds? I ask as I had always seen and thought that they had smoke trails to the tracer which were left behind.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

I agree with SlipBall 100%.

A big +1!!!!!

Every 13 year old and his little brother got their greasy hands on IL-2 and started cooking their own home brew.
It totaly killed a game I loved and enjoyed for nearly eight years.

Now the same guys are here acting like "know-it-all" and bitching after every set of screenshots.

Hey, It's W.I.P. Don't you see that things are still changing from week to week? Wait for the release and then start to whine.

I remember few years ago Hightech Creations released a public beta, months before a new release. The same type of whining filled the forums until the lead developer posted this sticky in the forum:

"IT'S BETA, STUPID!!!!"



Anyway. Thanks for the great update Oleg and Ilya.

[SlipBall]

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People want's to get a best product.. and they helps as they can..[/QUOTE]




My friend, I can not see how you could condone such a statement as the following:

But maybe some of you know what we have done for
il2 effects, i know everything about il2 effects, and i'm
only talking about smokes and fires in those photos, and
i don't like it, those smokes and fires looks wrong, actually
it looks exactly as the system today present in il2, if anybody
already use our plutonium edition, knows what old il2 engine can
do and, will see that our smokes are more realistic, textures in those
are very low quality, and the emit freq isn't right