Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[Mysticpuma]

What aircraft did Northrop Grumman manufacture that may not show themselves in SoW updates?

That's a little forward thinking I know, but once the SoW simulation engine is released to third-parties (already has been I think), what aircraft will they not be able to have in SoW expansion packs for fear of treading on toes and being sued?

Just wondering how this may/could affect future developments?

Cheers, MP

[ElAurens]

Anything made by Northrop, Grumman, or any company they have acquired, ever. This takes in most of the US ship building business, so it would include a very large number of suface ships used by the US Navy in the second world war.

This was discussed at length when the issue first raised it's head at the release of Pacific Fighters. Following the NG corporate family tree would also mean that many ships used by the US in World War One would also be off limits.

Just invetigate N-G's website and trace the corporate history.

It will be a serious dent in the Korean war as well.

[PilotError]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

What aircraft did Northrop Grumman manufacture that may not show themselves in SoW updates?

That's a little forward thinking I know, but once the SoW simulation engine is released to third-parties (already has been I think), what aircraft will they not be able to have in SoW expansion packs for fear of treading on toes and being sued?

Just wondering how this may/could affect future developments?

Cheers, MP

I thought the N-G issue only applied to IL-2 and it's add ons.
Unfortunately this seems to include TD work as well.

But SoW is a totally new product, so hopefully it will not be included in the N-G legal contract.
Maybe just a lot of wishfull thinking on my part.

[swiss]

Jeez - is it so hard to understand?

If you make money using their some of their intellectual property, they want their fair share aka royalties.
Not more, not less.

Well, TD does not, that's why I think they could get NG's ok.

[csThor]

You have a few hundred thousand $$$ ready just in case NG doesn't follow your argument? No? We don't, either. As such it is simple - let sleeping dogs lie. TD won't touch anything NG-related as Oleg specifically asked us not to. End of discussion.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by csThor

You have a few hundred thousand $$$ ready just in case NG doesn't follow your argument? No? We don't, either. As such it is simple - let sleeping dogs lie. TD won't touch anything NG-related as Oleg specifically asked us not to. End of discussion.

No I just thought, maybe, someone could ask.

If there already are violations - then we better don't.

[Romanator21]

Soooo, do the Grumman Wildcat and Hellcat not apply to the copyright issue? How were they incorporated into the game, but not some battleships, and other aircraft?

[csThor]

Aircraft as Wildcat and Hellcat were what Ubi and Oleg had to pay for ... Any other NG-related item (such as the battleships) means NG will hold out its hand and wait for Oleg to shove some cash their way.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Soooo, do the Grumman Wildcat and Hellcat not apply to the copyright issue? How were they incorporated into the game, but not some battleships, and other aircraft?

man, because there was a secret agreement between UBI, 1C and NG, means most propably NG got already money for the already in PF existing NG stuff !!!
hence the delay of the PacificFighters release - and if there would have not been an agreement , it would have benn never released....................
but sure, UBI and 1C dont want pay more money to put more NG stuff in its game.

[JG53Frankyboy]

but TD is making official patches for a 1C game.

i would not risk any money for lawyers !!!

Grumman stuff is dead................. blame them , not the gamedevelopers.
and true, for future PTO and Korean stuff i have no good hopes because of that !


what a 3.party modeller will bring in the game, without making money, THAT is another story i guess. but TD is in the sence of Law no 3.party.