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[kjwright]

Im really considering it. Ive been playing flight sims since my Dad introduced me to Chuck yeager Air to Air combat on original DOS file( I was 6 and was blowing Bf-109's and FW-190s out of the sky). Once i hit higher grades mainly 4th-7th I played the janes series of USAF and Combat Flight Simulator. hardest part for me will being able to identify targets with out a lock on, but im under the assumption that its like that for everyone at first. I will strive to be the best P-38 pilot the likes of which most new people have ever seen. The Fork Tail Devil will rain supreme! Hopefully my joystick still works Its one of the older Sidewinder Pro sticks so i feel confident. Is there anyone good at the p38 like really good?

[Modding_Monkey]

I can shoot anything down with it if that what you mean.

[AndyJWest]

I think you'll like the IL-2 P-38, kjwright. Handled properly, it is a killer in the air, and at ground attack too. You won't be able to turn fight with it, particularly at low altitude, so you need to learn 'zoom and boom' tactics. The contrarotating props make handling easy, as does the trike undercarriage. It handles pretty well on one engine too. About the only thing that catches people out is it's high-speed dive characteristics - fly too fast and you'll never pull out - just like the real thing...

If you only ever fly the P-38, expect an unpleasant surprise if you eventually try something with only one prop: IL-2 models torque and gyroscopic effects more realistically than most sims, and this takes getting used to.

I'll see if I can find any handling notes for the P-38, for you, but a couple of suggestions to start with:

(A) Don't carry more fuel than you need - it handles better at low weight, like any fighter.

(b) The P-38 J VNE is 820 Km/h (indicated airspeed), P-38 L is 880 Km/h. Dive any faster and you are almost certainly going to have something nasty happen, very soon. In practice this means that you should start to pull out/throttle back well before you reach these speed. The P-38 L has a dive recovery brake, which helps, but you then risk blackout - IL-2 models that too.

[SEE]

I bought IL1946 having heard so much about it playing BOP on Xbox. I wished I had bought it years ago! At first I thought the graphics looked dated but in many repects I now prefer the clean crisp rendering without that grainy atmospheric ambience that BOP has. It's a lot more difficult that's for sure but you can adjust the level of difficulty to your own preference without being confined to just three difficulty settings as on BOP. There is a hell of a lot to learn but I am absolutely hooked on it. The campaigns are so much better and, if you don't use Time Skip, some missions will take a good hour or so to complete. The only downside is that you won't experience the chat and banter like you do on PS3 (if you can find a game that is!), the upside is that you won't have any problems getting an on-line game (getting a kill is the exception....) . My advice is to get it but be prepared to be a IL1946 junkie......!

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by kjwright

I will strive to be the best P-38 pilot the likes of which most new people have ever seen. The Fork Tail Devil will rain supreme! Hopefully my joystick still works Its one of the older Sidewinder Pro sticks so i feel confident. Is there anyone good at the p38 like really good?

There is actually a p38 thread running at the moment over at ubizoo:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...6291076078/p/1

Though as usual over there the thread gets way off topic at times.

One thing to note about the p38 online, the twins are worth twice the points online for a kill so you will get a lot of attention from the blue side

[AndyJWest]

I've not been able to find any handling notes for the P-38, though you will do ok if you just keep the airspeed up in combat, and don't get suckered into a turning fight.

You might find the pilots' manual for the real thing of interest: download here - http://aafcollection.info/items/deta...1!title!up!100. Though the sim doesn't model everything, you'll maybe get a few clues about how to make the best of the P-38, and maybe appreciate it a bit more too.

[Schallmoser]

Hi kjwright,

You can take a look at this original training film for the P38.
Even if IL2 doesn't model everything as Andy said, it might familarize you with the plane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq_2UmiCoJk

Hope this helps, and welcome to the IL2 world

cheers
Schallmoser

[Erkki]

Nice to see that some people have actually moved from BOP to Il-2, the movement has been, I think, mainly the opposite mostly!

The P-38 is a real killer in the pacific front, being faster than anything the Japs have, except Ki-84 and J2M, that are, in realistic scenarios, limited to Home island defense mostly.

P-38 is not so good against its Luftwaffe opponents, remember that every 109 WILL give you hard time in a dogfight, as do 190s. USAAF, having early on nothing better, just had to stick with the P-38, before P-51 and P-47s with multiple droptanks. Remember that you are faster or as fast as 109s, so you dont usually have to fight them if they cant dive to you. But remember that rocket and bomb racks slow you down...

If you can get a 190 slow down, you can fight and win one, however online the 190 pilots often tend to know their machine inside out, and might still come on top. Dont let them use their superior roll and kill you early.

And as with every aircraft, never be alone, work together, attack from advantage only and fear the death, and you shall become fearsome!

[Borsch]

Originally Posted by Erkki

Nice to see that some people have actually moved from BOP to Il-2, the movement has been, I think, mainly the opposite mostly!

In my experience, most people who flew IL2 and gave WoP (~BoP) a try for a few days, and then started to wait for WoP Dev's promises to come to life. They posted on WoP forums about its patches and what need to be done, but returned to fly to Il2 (I was one of them). Now, patches no longer appear, WoP forums have dried up, most people have forgotten about it and carry on with IL2/RoF.

IL2 is FAR more advanced in damage modeling when compared to WoP/BoP, almost each kill is different (or it feels like it anyway) - chunks of planes are blown off, wounded planes stream smokes from different areas, oil is leaking etc. Exact part that was shot at becomes engulfed in flames (fuel tanks, engines, ammo storages). Wounded planes behave and sound completely different and exactly in accordance to the damage sustained.

This makes IL2 air-combat much more alive than the generic mega-flameout of WOP/BOP.

IL2 sounds BLOW AWAY the pathetic electric shaver attempt of WOP/BOP.

Campaigns/missions/ online play - once again IL2 humiliates WOP/BOP.

IL2 FM is not better by the same margin, but still significantly better- planes shudder at high angles of attack, snap rolls and stalling behavior are more alive...

Graphics wise- IL2 is no BOP, but still is beautiful looking. Its water is nicer than BoP's...

IL2 rules and is one of the greatest sims/games ever! THE greatest as far as I am concerned (although far from perfect











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