Friday 2010-07-02 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[Splitter]

Not saying you are wrong, but I decided against downloading WoP. I read too many negatives, didn't like the "YuPlay" thing, and wasn't sold on the realism.

Yes, the WoP videos looked good, but the comments from users did not encourage me. More videos from Oleg would be encouraging as it is easy to make a pic look good, but I trust that between the few videos and many pics this sim will look good.

I feel for the people that have been waiting for this release since it was first talked about in....'06? Then again, I waited more than 10 years for Team Fortress 2 so my sympathy has some limits lol. And, of course, there is the whole Dance with Dragons wait...

So basically, I am new to waiting for this release. I see criticisms of the pics and think, "are you kidding?". Then I remind myself that most other people on here have waited far longer than I for a game they are bound to love.

I gave up combat flight sims after CFS3. I got into BF'42 and such plus got my flight fix with FSX and X-Plane. I remember the combat sims I used to play and the current flight sims and, thus, I drool over what I see Oleg posting because it is SO much more advanced than anything I have played.

So...take my enthusiasm for what it is worth. I am basically neutral in all of this because I come from older flight and combat sims while mainly researching the current (few) flight sims. That research is what drew me to C1's new release.

Splitter

Originally Posted by Ekar

It looks gorgeous, but maybe you haven't seen Wings of Prey yet. Of course, it's a little unfair to compare something which is WIP to a released product, and I will personally hold final judgement of SOWs graphics until it is finally ready for release, but right now WOP seems to hold the graphical crown.


http://image.gxzone.com/images/3/c/3c126094416.jpg
http://image.gxzone.com/images/e/4/e481321977c.jpg
http://forum.yuplay.com/index.php?ac...pe=post&id=136
http://forum.yuplay.com/index.php?ac...pe=post&id=149
http://img694.imageshack.us/f/shot20091219220049.jpg/
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PibNDdSM_Pg/S2...2011.53.45.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/f/cloudsq.jpg/
http://forum.yuplay.com/index.php?ac...pe=post&id=575


However you'd rate WOP in terms of its flight simulation, graphically it is a powerhouse. Just look on that last shot, where the outside moisture creates a reflective sheen over the metal. I've never seen that before, it's truly gorgeous. And WOP is full of these little touches... Speaking graphically, it's kind of a shame to me that for some this game already seems to exist in the shadow of SOW.

(To be honest I bought WOP in order to get acquainted with WWII aviation and flight/combat techniques in preparation for SOW, but WOP is still great, and I like to see its graphical accomplishments atleast recognised).


What we really need to see to get a better idea of things are some good quality screens of SOW with full texture details, a decent amount of AA/AF, running on machines which can handle it. These preview screens give us an idea but they don't yet point to graphics better 'than anything else on the market today'. Maybe others can see it, but not me. Not just yet. Oleg seems confident, and I'm not saying that SOW won't look as good or better than WOP, simply that I'm not seeing that yet.

It does already look fantastic, and that is very promising indeed.

[Armatian]

HOLY something, it's looking amazing, can't wait to hear and feel this sim.

I would like to add something, for every one who would like to consider.
I saw one time some people complaining to ati developers directly because of the vents on the 5870 to be too small, without knowing nothing about termodynamics or anything about the engineering development of the product, qa, etc. It's a little sad even.

It is something amazing that a developer engage in direct contact with consumers and even take time to reply, so take advantage of it, requesting features to any kind to human endeavour it's delicate, to say at least.

Just a thougth

[Ekar]

Originally Posted by Splitter

Not saying you are wrong, but I decided against downloading WoP. I read too many negatives, didn't like the "YuPlay" thing, and wasn't sold on the realism...


...So...take my enthusiasm for what it is worth. I am basically neutral in all of this because I come from older flight and combat sims while mainly researching the current (few) flight sims. That research is what drew me to C1's new release.

Splitter

Hi Splitter
That's fine. I understand your enthusiasm well. I don't want to sound like I'm pushing a wheelbarrow for WOP (not sure if that's even a proper idiom or not ). As I said previously, SOW is the real reason I've garnered a new interest in WWII combat flight simulation. There's no doubt in my mind that when released it will likely blow everything else out of the water. All I'm trying to express is- credit where credit's due. WOP is still a fine game/sim in its own right, even as it falls short of some of the expectations of the discerning hardcore flight sim community (no mission builder for instance). But it does happen to have lovely graphics, and since a large part of what we're talking about in this thread is cosmetic details, I thought it relevant to bring up. That's all.

Right, back to SOW.